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Need Quick Advice- Bilstein 5100 + block?

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by TBTACO, Jan 15, 2018.

  1. Jan 15, 2018 at 8:03 PM
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    Pigpen

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    I'm guessing the new tires are 285/70/17?
     
  2. Jan 15, 2018 at 8:03 PM
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    TBTACO

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  3. Jan 15, 2018 at 8:08 PM
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    Mine was kinda the same case except i had 265/70/16's. Now im at 265/75/16's, guess i shoulda asked OP what size tires he had as pigpen suggested here. now pigpen how do you think a 2" ride height increase would make no difference to a shocks extension? Not trying to pick on you here, but i had read up about how a 2" AAL could damage a stock length shock. I said nah that wont happen to me! Few months later i blew a rear shock with 20k on it, its was a trd bilstein one from the factory too. Thats literally all that makes sense to me here, you are increasing the height of the frame which in turn extends the shock past OEM position and when a sudden drop came along it fucked it all up. Am i incorrect?
     
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  4. Jan 15, 2018 at 8:16 PM
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    Pigpen

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    It wasn't the ride height that blew out the shocks. It was the added stiffness of the suspension. Those shocks are valved super soft and can't handle what you did to them. I did the same to mine with Ride Rite air bags on stock springs. I blew the rear shocks within 10K miles of installing the bags.
     
  5. Jan 15, 2018 at 8:41 PM
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    Just a heads up, some have to do it and some don't, your alignment depends a lot on it, and most offroad shops don't always know much, I've had my laughs talking to guys at 4wheelparts in my day, either way the CMC is way easier than a lot of people make it seem, I was a little terrified the first time I started cutting on my truck, but you wouldn't know unless I showed you where
    the leafs will still be the factory extended length, the add a leaf only stiffens the arch, standard 5100s in the rear are longer than the leafs extended.
     
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  6. Jan 16, 2018 at 7:08 AM
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    I couldn't tell a difference. It certainly didn't ride worse. HOWEVER I did get the vibration that many ppl get when they lift their rigs. Felt like rumble strips up to about 50 mph and would go away in 4HI. I found there was a TSB for that so I took it to Toyota and they replaced that front bushing with no questions asked and at no charge. I thought they would tell me to eff off since I lifted it, but it wasn't an issue.
     
  7. Jan 16, 2018 at 8:26 PM
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    @Minny Taco, I just drove it home, no rear block. Actually not as nose high as I thought it would be but just a tad under level. I'd imagine the block would have made it pretty much back to factory rake. I thought I felt a little "womp womp womp" push pull sensation for a minute, but then it seemed to disappear... not sure if I made it up in my head, but I'll be driving her tomorrow to see what's up. Thanks for the insight on the bushing. I'll have to check out all of the TSB for this ride, as I just got it and haven't done my homework.

    I appreciate your response!
     
  8. Jan 16, 2018 at 8:46 PM
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    @TBTACO has a prerunner. There's no front diff, therefore no bearing or need for the bushing.

    What's your center of hub to fender measurement after the lift?

    Oh and :worthless:
     

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