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Need your advice for railing

Discussion in 'Garage / Workshop' started by Haslefre, Jan 21, 2013.

  1. Jan 21, 2013 at 6:03 PM
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    what about something that attaches to the stringer like this? of course you may need to get access to the under side of the stairs to add in additional blocking behind the stringer for support. If you can't do that then you run the risk of the railing breaking loose if there was enough force against it (say if someone did lose their balance and fell against the railing).

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    or this

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  2. Jan 21, 2013 at 6:05 PM
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    here's what i was thinking. get three posts (red) that go from basement all the way to the appropriate height. put those posts between both stair runs, then secure the posts into the appropriate points as needed: existing wall at top, stairs, etc. make the center post removable and possibly the long one too. You could put them in with the lag screws as needed and not glue in the wood plugs. just leave them in with a friction fit. then build 4 panels of material of your choice (purple) mount them to the side of the three posts depending on the side of the stair run. this breaks down for big bulky objects but should be strong enough to catch a person when needed on occasion.

    i am not a professional, so this idea is at your own risk. the weakest point is potentially the post on the landing by the front door.

    here's what is in my mind.

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  3. Jan 21, 2013 at 6:07 PM
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    Something like that was my idea. The hard part will be the center and the top though. The top is a hard part to attach it to. I'll get a picture of it in a second.
     
  4. Jan 21, 2013 at 6:14 PM
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    This is the old post. Obviously doesn't work anymore. But I will have to find a way to anchor it into the wall.
     
  5. Jan 21, 2013 at 6:32 PM
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    take that post out. carefully remove the trim. remove some of the drywall and reinforce that end 2x4 with another 2x4. then tie your new larger post into that after you patch up the drywall. depending on where you decide to put that post on the landing by the front door, you might be able to remove a piece of the flooring to patch the area on the top level after you remove the existing post.
     
  6. Jan 22, 2013 at 8:25 PM
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    Like this

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  7. Jan 22, 2013 at 8:27 PM
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    I like that. And, if I tore out the wall upstairs, I could just do what they did on the bottom of the glass... It would take up the room of the existing wall.
     
  8. Jan 22, 2013 at 8:27 PM
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    I built that railing
     
  9. Jan 22, 2013 at 8:39 PM
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    What did you use on the bottom?
     
  10. Jan 22, 2013 at 8:41 PM
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    The base that the flat glass is sitting on ?

    The whole railing system is made of vertical grain Fir
     
  11. Jan 22, 2013 at 8:47 PM
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    Yeah. Man that looks nice. Not sure what it would look like next to dark bamboo though. Now I have a new project to look at for it. Guess I may be knocking out those walls.
     
  12. Jan 22, 2013 at 8:49 PM
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    You could use whatever wood suits , but this is the design I was talking about
     
  13. Jan 22, 2013 at 9:16 PM
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    This.
     
  14. Jan 22, 2013 at 9:19 PM
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    That's a weird way to install clips though. Usually they are installed on the sides.
     
  15. Jan 22, 2013 at 9:37 PM
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    That's a tough one.

    You don't want the lower half of the stairwell blocked off, and don't want the railing attached to the treads.
    There's not enough room between the sides for both rails... need some space between the graspable rails at the junction at the landing.

    The only thing I can come up with is something like this. The rail would mount as if it were attached to walls, but it keeps the area between the top of the bottom rail and the bottom of the upper staircase open for moving items.
    It also effectively closes off the "drop zone" where small children can "bomb" people on the first floor :D

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  16. Jan 22, 2013 at 10:26 PM
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    I've only really seen top/bottom. I imagine you would want the clips to tie the handrail and glass together or the handrail would take a lot of flex.
     
  17. Jan 22, 2013 at 10:46 PM
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    In this orientation they help to support the top rail

    Not weird
     
  18. Jan 23, 2013 at 3:45 PM
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    Something like this also? If I do this along the stairs it wouldn't take up as much room
     
  19. Jan 26, 2013 at 7:32 PM
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    Oz, I think I am going to go with something between these 2. I'll do the glass in the wall, and down the stairs, but leave the existing walls, just cut them up to fit the glass panes.
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    and
    staircase-bi-level-for-sale-royalwood-manitoba-big-2157444.jpg
     
  20. Jan 26, 2013 at 7:40 PM
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    I thought you didn't want the railing on the stairs ?
     
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