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No-Drill Rock Slider Options

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by jckid, Jan 5, 2009.

  1. Jun 19, 2010 at 8:34 AM
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    No drilling or welding while using only OEM holes means you'll end up with a set of sliders that won't be able to withstand any kind of punishment. The only OEM holes are on the side of the frame, which means no footing when something is pushing up on the slider. They'll be mainly for looks and stepping on with your foot and could even damage the factory holes, mess up the brake line inside the frame rail, and possibly bend that portion of frame since those holes are square and the ones that are round are going to be bigger than the bolt going through it. I spent hours trying to figure out how to bolt them on w/o drilling. Drilling on the bottom won't hurt a thing, the frame is thick and also 2 layers. These frames have very little to bolt to as far as good mounting points go...that's why drilling is necessary. So basically, no drill sliders won't be sliders, they'll be steps, a sheep in wolf's clothing.
     
  2. Jul 13, 2010 at 8:28 AM
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    Are there any warranty implications when you drill holes in the frame???
     
  3. Jul 13, 2010 at 8:55 AM
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    Avid offraod makes a few bolt on or weld on sliders, here is the link:

    http://avidoffroad.infusionsoft.com/go/avid/jusmac34
     
  4. Jul 31, 2010 at 9:05 AM
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    I can speak from a Shrockworks owners perspective.

    I have only 2 regrets - One that I didn't get sliders with kickouts! - I have 2 rear doors that have trail rash that could have been saved if I had some substantial kick outs; far more damage, dollarwise than most any of these sliders cost!

    The other regret is that I failed to drill and bolt down the hole in front drivers side. The other week my front end dropped off a ledge that caused the slider to flex slightly and put a small dent in my rocker. :eek: So, if you get bolt ons, DO NOT LEAVE THE DRIVEWAY WITHOUT INSTALLING EVERY BOLT!!!

    Call me a geek but I don't like the idea of spot heat treating (welding) a thin, non-boxed frame that is designed to be a balance of strength, flexibility, and lightness. Frames today are heat treated to a spec that lives up to the design parameters for all of these characterics prior to welding and maybe after welding (more than likely you will never have any problem other than not being able to remove and replace with out the use of a welder)!

    Many manufactures only want you to weld on your sliders and there is some merit to them as well - for example All Pro wants to give you as much clearance in the height and somewhat less clearance in the width. A great design principle. They also prefer you to weld - I can understand that from their perspective. Their design will probably keep more of your sheet metal in tact.

    Regarding warranty, if you want minimum hassles from a stealer, do nothing other than wash your truck and take it to the stealer for every bit of maintenance work. I on the other hand may be silly but unless I blow a motor or a trans, they probably will not see me and my truck ever again. I realize I am an exception to the rule.

    The real deal is that, technically, they would need to prove that the drilled hole caused the intermittent windshield to fail. ;) On the other hand if you had a rusted out frame due to the welding of your sliders, or from the drilled holes from your sliders (which would be silly), your claim may be rejected.

    The biggest problem right now is that most service writers are trained to ask if the vehicle has been modified - to reduce the overall warranty costs back to Toyota. There are a few dealers that turn their head so that they improve their bottom line since warranty work brings them some nice reimbursements from Toyota.

    Good luck on your choice and I think if you follow the instructions of any of the major suppliers of rock sliders, you will be fine.
     
  5. Jul 31, 2010 at 10:38 AM
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    Did everyone forget the CBI brand...they even sell the Bolt-on kit for those that make their own "rails" but need to attach by bolting on....

    Now that being said KMS will also be making bolt-ons for those living on the East Coast,New England area especially....My '02 Tacoma will be used as the "Mock-up" and will recieve the 1st set for 1st Gen....anyone with a 2nd Gen looking and available for a "Mock-up"???
     
  6. Aug 3, 2010 at 5:55 AM
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    What's involved in this? I might be interested.
     
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    all the bolt on will require you to drill some holes. or you can do what i'm going to do with mine when i get them. bolt on all pre existing holes and weld one of the support.
     
  8. Feb 20, 2016 at 1:46 PM
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    Regarding this thread that I know is older but maybe needs an update. I saw some sliders the other day that I am trying to find and probably will (will post if I find them) regarding no drill sliders for our tacoma's.

    The sliders I am trying to find use a bolt together box unit and engineered bolt on holders to grab the frame instead of drilling them. If you know which ones these are, link them or share the info.
    Do you have them?
    Photo's?
     
  9. Feb 20, 2016 at 1:57 PM
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    Mobtown Bolt-on Sliders do not require any drilling and can support the weight of the truck using a high lift. They actually add structural rigidity to the frame. The only issue is that their front mound go in the same place as my BudBuilt sliders - and probable most others that use a cross member for the transfer case skid. I'm going to have a fab shop figure something out and will share when I do.

    https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads...ill-rock-sliders-for-2005-2015-tacoma.401408/
     
  10. Feb 20, 2016 at 2:04 PM
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    That is one company, I am looking for this other one I saw that had clamps for the frame. I know the design will work way better and hope that others add these clamps to help with strength.
     
  11. Feb 22, 2016 at 10:41 PM
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    Thank you. After searching for just about a week and passing over these guys at least 10 times I started to search pictures for sliders and found that the picture and type of slider I was looking for was indeed the mobtown version. I think I might see if they are willing to do a little modification to the design as I like a tighter fitting slider (angled up) and hopefully angled ends instead of square. but honestly this is the only design I can put onto my truck that will work for me.

    I must be tired, I better go back to work so I get some actual sleep.

     
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    tail gate lock, rear view mirror bracket, hood hinge brackets, and the list grows.
    Yep Im going Mobtown also when I have some extra $$$, great guys btw, I just placed an order for their tailgate skin
     
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    Check out SOS Concepts
    https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/sos-concepts-sliders.305026/
     
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    They offer them in level or with a 15-degree up-angle, and with or without kick-outs. The angle version is very tight to the body. Not sure about the angles end thing, but they are pretty good guys to work with.
     
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    100% no drill bolt on, is what i am running. he can also change angle if you need I think, just ask @EddyRRT
     
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    Could you take a picture of how they mount on the front inside of the frame? As noted above, the Mobtown sliders mount in the same spot as my transfer case skid cross member. I assume that the SOS no-drill-bolt-ons will have the same issue, but I need to see a pic to be sure.
     
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    Is this an aftermarket part crossmember? if stock, no interference with crossmember. Will take a pic later if I can remember :thumbsup:
     
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