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OEM Connectors and Pigtails

Discussion in 'Technical Chat' started by DaveInDenver, Nov 26, 2017.

  1. Nov 26, 2017 at 6:24 AM
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    DaveInDenver

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    Trying to figure out a mating plug.

    I want to find a male connector that mates to the 90980-11020. This is used in the harness for the turn signal on my 2008, mates to the 90075-60060 socket in the back of the headlight.

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    The connector I'm looking for is a 3-position, 3.2II (old style 090II) sealed, flat. The harness repair manual doesn't list a male matching so I'm not sure it's used anywhere else on Toyotas other than molded sockets.

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    Has anyone figured out the Yazaki or Sumitomo model that fits this? The terminals aren't a problem, just haven't been able to find a housing (connector) that fits this application.
     
  2. Nov 26, 2017 at 6:48 PM
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    Have you checked with the dealer if they have a pigtail kit for this? At ford I can get most any connector as a pigtail replacement kit.
     
  3. Nov 26, 2017 at 7:07 PM
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    The part number 90980-11020 is the plastic part of the connector, which you match to a pigtail. In that case it'll be 82998-12440, which is a terminal crimped pigtail with 160mm length of wire.

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    The problem is Toyota usually lists a corresponding mating (opposite gender) connector but for 90980-11020 they don't. Is you look higher up in the chart at the end of my first post, say for a female 90980-11245 the matching male above it is 90980-11244. So those two make up a complete connection.

    I was hoping someone had tripped across a connector that works, perhaps Toyota has one but neglected to list it or the OEM manufacturers (that's Sumitomo and Yazaki) have one.
     
  4. Nov 26, 2017 at 7:27 PM
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    So what you want is a male terminal pigtail kit in place of the turn signal socket, is that correct?
     
  5. Nov 26, 2017 at 7:33 PM
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    Yup. I'd like to make a harness to tap the turn signals without cutting the stock harness or using Scotchlok taps.

    Whether it's cost effective is a different question...
     
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    Ok so here is what I got, keep in mind I am merely going off of what is pictured as I am unable to open the 3D view for some reason.
    A couple are questionable but not outright incorrect.

    http://prd.sws.co.jp/components/en/detail.php?number_s=61880282
    http://prd.sws.co.jp/components/en/detail.php?number_s=61810516
    http://prd.sws.co.jp/components/en/detail.php?number_s=61810671
    http://prd.sws.co.jp/components/en/detail.php?number_s=61810438
    http://prd.sws.co.jp/components/en/detail.php?number_s=61884775
    http://prd.sws.co.jp/components/en/detail.php?number_s=61884739

    You will also need to buy the male terminals and wire seals as well.
    I do not have the measurements for the plug cause its cold outside and I dont feel like going and removing my turn signal socket.
    I also do not know what the different series mean but there is a 192 page PDF on the web site you can download that I am not going to bother reading about all the different series.
     
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    Actually a thought just occurred to me, if you are removing the turn signal socket and wiring up something else in its place it would be much easier to simply purchase two paired M&F sealed connector sets that are two wire and cut the existing connector off the wiring harness and install the new female connector in its place then just connect whatever you have to the paired male connector, I would keep the original connector with enough wire, say two inches, so you can change it back to stock should you choose to at a later point.
    I say get two sets of connectors as I assume you will be doing this to both sides
     
  8. Nov 27, 2017 at 5:18 AM
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    The original sockets will remain in place. I'm considering running pigtails to a second set of turn indicators and marker lights in my ARB bumper, which currently aren't being used. I figure I got 'em, might as well use 'em. I just don't want to hack up my stock harness to tap the wires. I've long since sold the stock bumper, though, so making a permanent connection probably would be fine since I won't be taking off the ARB.

    I've seen the Sumitomo connectors, the housings aren't quite the same as Toyota. The TS sort of works but isn't a complete seal, but I haven't tried other models. Hard to know for sure that Toyota has a proprietary shape or not.

    For the 2.3II type the Sumitomo TS/SL terminals, cavity plugs and seals all work well.

    Looking through the manual it seems like 90980-11607 will mate to the 90980-11020. Probably going to risk a few dollars to see.

    BTW, a couple of places in the U.S. for Sumitomo and Yazaki:
    https://www.bmotorsports.com/shop/
    http://www.easternbeaver.com/Main/Elec__Products/Connectors/connectors.html
    http://www.smdinc.com/yazaki.php
     
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    Good luck with it.
     
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