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Oil filter ? Bigger is better ?

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by Armed in Utah, May 23, 2019.

  1. May 26, 2019 at 3:49 PM
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    TacomaSport86

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    I run extended oil change intervals with long life filters. My analyses all come back great. No need to do this for my vehicle
     
  2. May 26, 2019 at 3:52 PM
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    StillNoPickles

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    In the most literal sense sure. In terms of throwing extra oil into your engine expecting noticeable benefit, not so much. Simply put, Toyota engineers have it right on this one. I’ve driven 1GRFE prados in the sandbox with 700k Kilometers on them. They didn’t even have oem Denso filters and they ran on whatever bulk 5w30 that the motor pool could get in. They’d be driven or idle about 16 hours a day in upwards of 120 degree heat and dust. They still ran perfectly fine. My 05 still ran like a top with 295k miles on it with no oil related issues, and multiple confirmations from Blackstone saying I could surpass my 7500 mile intervals. That was with wallyworld 5w30 synthetic and a Denso oem filter. real world testaments and oil analysis tests will tell you a lot more than trying to out-engineer one of Toyota’s best engines. We aren’t talking about a big block dragster or an EJ257.
     
  3. May 26, 2019 at 3:56 PM
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    Chuy

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    I really think you guys are buying OEM oil filters because they are so affordable. :crapstorm: If they were $15 each, we wouldn't be having these conversations. How many of you buying OEM oil filters also buy OEM air filters? OEM motor oil? I know a few of you do, but not the majority.
     
  4. May 26, 2019 at 4:05 PM
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    StillNoPickles

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    Has nothing to do with an OEM product or not. Rather increased size in a filter. I personally chose OEM filters because I lived maybe a 1/2 mile from a dealership. The point I was making in my last post is that I drove trucks with questionable filters and oil on a regular basis with no issue, and in harsh conditions. Go ask all the high mileage 1GRFE owners how many of them used oversize filters. Ask them if they knew something Toyota’s engineers didn’t. Be surprised when they simply used compatible filters made for the engine, and motor oil that met Toyota’s specs. It’s really not that difficult, but different strokes for different folks.
     
  5. May 26, 2019 at 4:13 PM
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    I’m a broken record - the Toyota yzzd3 filter that everyone uses IS the oversized filter! It just happens that it’s what most Toyota places will give you when you ask for a 1gr-fe filter.

    Look at recommenced Fram 3614 or Mobil1 201 filter sizes - tiny right? Now look at the “oversized” 3600 or 209 - same size as the yzzd3.
     
  6. May 26, 2019 at 8:37 PM
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    A friend of mine used to run a 2 gt wix this blown big block. With a high volume high pressure oil pump and deep sump oil pan. A car like that can pump oil out of the pan faster than it drains back. But it ran 6 second 1/8 mile times at over 100mph. That oversized filter won't hurt but isn't necessary on a Tacoma.
     
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  7. May 27, 2019 at 6:47 AM
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    I bought an OEM toyota oil filter at the dealer for less than $6.00. I think it was $6.35 with the crush washer. Since its recommended by engineers smarter than me I'm sticking with it.
     
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  8. May 27, 2019 at 9:34 AM
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    No point ,or gain by using anything larger than a factory filter.
     
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  9. May 27, 2019 at 9:55 AM
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    this is a test.........

    repeat.......

    this is a test...........

    again....this Wix XP51515 was less than $7 shipped
     
  10. May 27, 2019 at 10:17 AM
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    But you gain .5qts of oil..... so it's a gain of sorts
     
  11. May 27, 2019 at 10:28 AM
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    The YZZD3 is what was on it when I did the first oil change after buying the truck and its what is on it now. My local Walmart has most of the Toyota OEM filters. Only lost ~.5 quarts of oil in a 5500 mile interval so I don't see a reason to change.

    Back when I had my VW Passat, the OEM filter was not adequate due to the oil pan size decrease when they made the 1.8t longitudinal. In that case I would use a Mann filter that could hold over a quart on its own. You could stuff a small child in that thing.
     
  12. May 27, 2019 at 10:33 AM
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    I use these bad boys, why? because bigger is better.
     
  13. May 27, 2019 at 10:34 AM
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    Too small, i use filters at least 48 inches long
     
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  14. May 27, 2019 at 10:35 AM
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    is there a hood mod for that, I assume it would be the same as having a stack coming through, pretty badass imo
     
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  15. May 27, 2019 at 10:37 AM
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    Oil snorkel
     
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