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Toyota Oil Filter (Made in Thailand) vs. the competition........

Discussion in 'Technical Chat' started by chris4x4, Nov 15, 2010.

  1. Nov 15, 2010 at 2:36 PM
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    What do you get for your money? Fram is a cheap filter.....The extra gaurd is $3.54 at Wallyworld (out here), while the Tough Gaurd is $5.96. Meanwhile....The over the counter Toyota Filter, Made in Thialand, is about $3.99. Words like "Extra Guard", or "Tough Gaurd" lead you to think your getting better protection for your engine. Right? I mean......Fram SAYS so! Hell.....The "Extra Guard" says right on the box, that it gives 3x's the protection, and the "Tough Gaurd" gives 6x's the protection....6 TIMES! :eek: They use (according to the box) "Cellulose and Glass blended media" for the Extra Guard, while the Tough Gard uses "Intertwined Synthetic Glass and Cellulose Media". Sounds like good shit to me! What does the Toyota filter use? It doesnt say anything on the box...Right? Its gotta be a basic bottom line filter. What kinda filter can you possably get for 4 bucks? "I'll spend the extra cahs, and get a better filter".....WHOA!!!

    Lets see what the differences are!
    I bought 3 filters off the shelf, and decided to see for myself. I didnt get the lowest line filter, as...well.....who cares about those. And I didnt get th eK&N, or Mobil 1 as I didnt have enough cash. SO......On with the comparo.

    These are the ones I compared:

    Oil filter comparo 001.jpg

    As you can see, The Toyota filter is taller than the Fram filters....

    Oil filter comparo 002.jpg

    And the Toyota filter is sealed, and pre lubbed:

    Oil filter comparo 003.jpg


    And for a short Video Comparo....



    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14by8s_kD8Y



    I measured the amount of filtering media the 2 Fram filters had, and they both have 115.9 sq. inches of media, while the Toyota filter has 225.9 sq. inches of media. Almost TWICE the amount as the 2 Frams.

    More filters with special thanks to KenpachiZaraki for sending them to me to add to this :)

    The new ones added, are the STP, Bosch, K&N, and Mobil 1 filters.

    Toyota filter comparo 2 002.jpg

    As you can see, THe Toyota filter is taller than the others, with the STP filter being the shortest.
    STP part # S3614:
    At $3.59 the STP filter is tied with the Fram EG3614 as the cheapest filter. When flipping the filter over, and looking at the underside, you can see the filter media, as there is no steel core as the others have. Instead, STP uses a rign type support, made of plastic. STP claims 96% efficiency, and 20% more dirt holding capacity over the "Nationally advertised brand". They are also the only filter to have listed on the side of the carton to change the oil and filter every 3000 miles.
    It has 108 sq. inches of filtering media.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwMrsW0FLYg


    Bosch part #3330:
    At $6.49, this filter is close in price to the Fram TG3614. The package claims it to be a "Premium Filter", and remove 99.9% of "Engine oil impurities". It also claims 42% more filtering media, and 30% thicker media than "conventional" filters. I could tell no difference in the thickness of the media than the other filters tested. It has 124.9 sq. inches of filter media.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQjRuukP2KY

    K&N part # HP-1002:

    At $13.99, this is the most expensive filter in the comparo. It boasts a Pre lubed gasket, yet the picture instruction say to oil it before installing. It has a 1" nut on the top of the filter, and claims "removal of 99% of harmfull contaminants". It has 103.6 sq. inches of filtering media.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QeFKqRA-iLE

    Mobil 1 part # M1-102:

    At $12.99, this filter is on the higher end of the price range. The package claims the gasket is pre lubricated, though it clearly is not. The picture instructions also say to oil the gasket before installing. On the carton, it claims to have a "multi pass" efficiency of 99.2% vs. 94% for the "leading brand". It has 103.6 sq. inches of filtering media.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IDQyNCJK7w

    The K&N and Mobil 1 are virtually identical internally as you can get. Even the bases look the same, and are stamped with the same "AA".


    Toyota filter comparo 2 003.jpg


    Oil Filter OEM OF 1004:
    This filter was provided by RidingonTRD (Rich)
    Its made in China, is about the same size as the Toyota filter, and has 134.2 sq. in. of filtering media. THe media is a basic paper type. The end is sealed in plastic, but not pre lubed.

    OEM oil filter 001.jpg

    OEM oil filter 002.jpg

    OEM oil filter 003.jpg



    The main concern I have, is the center tube, although perforated, the holes are very small. I think this would cause oil pressure to be a bit higher, and not flow the volume needed for propper lubrication.

    OEM oil filter 005.jpg


    OEM oil filter 006.jpg

    OEM oil filter 007.jpg

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ro4U2c9PSfg

    I cant find a price online for this filter.

    MANN Filter ML 1003:
    This filter was provided by one of our New Members, SRD (Steve)
    Its made in the USA, and sells for about $2.99
    Its about 2/3" shorter in height than the Toyota 90915-YZZD3
    The filter media is paper, and has 121 sq. in. of surface area.

    MANN oil filter comparo 001.jpg

    MANN oil filter comparo 003.jpg



    Upon dissasembly, I noticed there is some black stuff on teh top of the fitler end cap, that easilly fell away with light pressure of my finger.
    Also, The Bypss valve is made of cardboard, and did not seal well at all. The gap between the bypass valve, and the housing easilly allowed light to be seen in between. This will allow a percentage of un filtered oil to flow back into the engine. Also something interesting....The paper filtering media would begin to fall apart when rubbed lightly with my finger.

    MANN oil filter comparo 005.jpg

    Pic of the Bypass valve:

    MANN oil filter comparo 006.jpg

    Center tube:

    MANN oil filter comparo 007.jpg

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqosalQDQ-A


    Purolator PL10241:
    Retail price is $5.79
    Filter is Made in USA.

    As you can see, this filter is a bit smaller than the OEM Toyota filter:
    purolator filter 001.jpg

    This filter is rated at 99.9% Efficency. On the package, It advertises its ability to hold 13 grams of contaminants, and then lets you know that that equates to 8 nails, 13 nuts, or 31 paper clips. It claims to use "Micronic media", but in reality, its just cheap paper media. It brags about its textured surface, and while I think this is cool, I would rather the filter media be where the money is spent when making a filter. There is 131.2 sq. in. of filter media. The baypass valve is a simple metal disk, and it does not seal against the top cap of the filter. The gasket is pre lubed with a teflon coating.

    purolator filter 002.jpg

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5c-kzPLiqYA



    Wix 51348:
    Retail price $3.99
    Made in USA

    This filter has 115 sq. in. of paper filtering media. The bypass valve is very well done, and seals nicely. As you can see, this filter is also much smaller than the OEM Toyota filter, with about half of the filtering media. Wix advertises this media as "Advanced" media. At an overall height of 3.5", the media takes up only 2" of height inside the housing.

    Filters 001.jpg

    Filters 002.jpg





    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIaxla3ylpc














    Amsoil Ea15K51:
    Retail price of $14.95
    Made in USA

    This filter is very much like the Wix, except for the filter media is a synthetic, with a unique mesh backing. With only 66 sq. in. of media, this is the least amount in a filter I have seen yet. Much like the Wix, only 2" of space inside the housing is used for media. Amsoil claims 98.7% efficiency when filtering down to 15 microns. They also claim its is guaranteed up to 15,000 miles. Against what, they dont say. The anti drain valve, and housing have the same part numbers, and manufacture as the Wix, which leads me to belive they are made in the same factory.


    Filters 003.jpg


    Here is a pic of the mesh backing:

    Filters 007.jpg

    And compared to the Wix:

    Filters 008.jpg


    Wix and Amsoil base plates:

    Filters 009.jpg

    Filters 010.jpg



    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wejqxzT8_eQ

    Royal Purple 10-2835
    Retail price $14.95
    Made in USA

    At 56.25 sq.- in. of filtering media, this is the least amount of filter media in a filter (in OEM replacement apps) thus far. Despite this, RP claims this filter will support extended oil change interrvals, up to 12k miles. The media IS 100% synthetic, with a wire mesh backing. RP also claims the anti drian back valve is "High performance", and it IS a cool Purple color......so....take that for what its worth. They also claim the filter housing is "Ultra Strength", and I will attest that this filter was THE hardest filter to destroy. Again.....take that for what its worth. I dont know of any Fram filters (despite them being absolute garbage) blowing apart under the hood. Anyway, construction is much like the Amsoil, but there are no part numbers on the base, and other parts. Once again, it is much smaller than the Toyota OEM filter.


    royal purple 001.jpg

    royal purple 002.jpg


    royal purple 004.jpg












    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOr4K0VIMvI








    Added 4/25/15:



    Special thanks to thunderone for sending the 2 newest filters to check out. A NAPA Gold 1516 ($5.99), and a Mobil 1 M1-209 ($11.99). Both of these are a +1 size up from the OEM replacements, so lets see how they stack up!


    First, here are the 2 side by side:

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    The NAPA is slightly taller than the Mobil 1:


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    The NAPA Filter has larger holes, allowing for less restriction (NAPA on left):


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    The components:

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    The NAPA has a unique anti drain valve, as its an "All in one" unit:



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    And the components of the Anti drain back valve:

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    The NAPA Gold has 210 sq. in. of paper/cardboard filter media:

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    Here is the Mobil 1 M1-209 ($11.99):

    Components:

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    The Anti drain back valve, although claimed to be "Patented", is very similar tot he NAPA:

    [​IMG]


    Upon disassembly, the filter canister had all sorts of flaws, including this dent. The outside was perfect, but there were all sorts of bends, and dings in the filter canister. Not a big deal, as this doesn't affect how it works, but for the money, you would expect a little better quality control:

    [​IMG]

    Mobil 1 claims the filter media is "Synthetic Fiber Blend", however, its the same media as in the NAPA Gold filter, but only 171.5 sq. in. of filter media.

    [​IMG]

    I had to bust my ass to get the internals of the anti drain back/by pass valve apart:


    [​IMG]



    personal note:
    The adhesive that Mobil 1 uses to hold the media, and center tube together, makes epoxy resin look suitable for use by pre school children. Never in the past, have I had to fight a filter this hard to get it apart. I have a strange desire to Email Mobil 1 and tell them either:
    A. Well Done!
    B. HA! I BEAT YOU!
    C. Go fuck yourselves!

    Regardless, this filter shouldn't come apart unless your truck explodes, and even then, I would bet on the filter.







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    Toyota filter comparo 2 001.jpg
    Filters 004.jpg
     
    scocar and high n mighty like this.
  2. Nov 15, 2010 at 2:50 PM
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    Nice post chris! as you saw on my truck I busted a hole in a shitty fram (Prev owner used those) Fixed everything with a nice Mobil 1 filter.

    oh random side note for everyone. 1st gens and 2nd gens use the same Mobil 1 filters. same part number.
     
  4. Nov 15, 2010 at 2:56 PM
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    Wow, thanks for doing/posting this. Been using the Toyota filters since my truck was new and my ol lady always wonders why we have to make a special trip to the dealer to pick up plugs, air filters, oil filters....she'll love this video, thanks again!
     
  5. Nov 15, 2010 at 2:56 PM
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    Id like to see the k&n and Mobil 1. good work on these ones. :thumbsup:
     
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    Looking forward to the K&N review....
    Thanks!!!!
     
  7. Nov 15, 2010 at 2:59 PM
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    Nice video you made there.

    But I think the K&N filters are the same as the Mobil 1 filters. Actually there made by the same exact company. The only difference is the nut on top of the K&N, and the name.
     
  8. Nov 15, 2010 at 2:59 PM
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    Did you pull the filters apart to measure the filter media?
     
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    nice post dude.i use the toyo filters
     
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    Thanks for videoing and posting that! Great job! Even an old fart can understand it!
     
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    Toyota factory oil filters also have the proper bypass valve. I used to use FRAM oil filters on my 22re and there was always a weird rattle during start-up. After speaking with a 60 year old Toyota master tech, he explained that the valve allows the oil filter to be bypassed during start-up until proper oil pressure is reached. Needless to say, after switching to a Toyota factory oil filter, the rattle was completely gone.
     
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    shit, I've been using the tough guard... :facepalm:
     
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    Ah...so you paid the extra for the "High Performance Orange" anti drainback valve :p
     
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    Same Toyota part number as well. From 2000 to present, all the V6 Tacoma engines use the same filter.
     
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    Great post Chris! I've been useing the Fram TG's....think I was sold on the marketing of it and not to mention that I could get an oil filter while grocery shopping at Walmart!

    Guess I'll be lookin into a bulk order Toyota filter purchase :D
     
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    Awesome! I'll check out the vid when i get home. Can't see anything on work comps :(
     
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    I didnt video me stringing out the media to measure it....I took measure ments, and posted the difference in sq. inches. You can see the difference in the media in the vid though.
     
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    X2 up until a couple years ago, then I switched to the Toyota OEM filters!:D
     
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    crap, i usually just go with whatever oil filter is offered on sale at autozone, sometimes mobil 1, sometimes fram...didnt think there was much difference....i do now! maybe ill make a run down to toyota and buy a years worth of filters, its a pain in the ass driving there..

    cant wait to see the mobil1/k&n compare
     
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