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Old Man Emu setups on 1st gens

Discussion in '1st Gen. Tacomas (1995-2004)' started by kyle39, Feb 19, 2011.

  1. Apr 23, 2022 at 4:15 PM
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    Rapid Dog

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    Might be that the 881's are for a heavier front end over the 880's. I have a aftermarket tube bumper and winch with the exact same set up and it's pretty much 'fine' but no Cadillac ride. But it was worse with the old spacer lift and beat shocks it had previously.
    But lots of opinions here. Bilstein Lifts told me I should be fine with the 881's so I went with that. so...
    (V6/Auto 4X4)

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  2. Apr 26, 2022 at 9:43 PM
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    I’ve got 881s on Tundra 5100s. I like them. 3rz, plate bumper, and winch add up to 50# over 5vz weight.
     
  3. May 8, 2022 at 5:28 PM
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    How do you like your setup? I just ordered 881/5100 and concerned they might be too harsh on the road. I have a first gen with 31” tires.
     
  4. Jun 12, 2022 at 9:20 AM
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    Adding this for anyone interested in alignment specifics. All of the following were done at the same time, zero miles on anything, including tires.
    BFG K02's 265/75/R16
    Spidertrax spacers 5-1/2" x 1-1/4"
    Dakars, 882 coils front.
    Delphi OEM style upper control arms from rock auto;
    Whiteline LCA bushings; OEM steering rack and OEM tierods;
    OEM upper ball joints and OEM lower ball joint.

    Upper control arms are maxed out as expected. Here is the best that was possible according to the alignment shop:

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  5. Jun 12, 2022 at 10:56 PM
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    Find a new shop.

    That is a piss poor alignment. They didn't touch the caster and that much negative caster is no good. It looks like they never touched the LCA cam adjusters, which is where all of the caster adjustment is done. I assume your cam adjusters are not frozen since you replaced the LCA bushings.

    It is important to note that OEM UCAs cannot be adjusted for an alignment. I've never heard of the brand you used but if they are OEM style, there is nothing adjustable on them.
     
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  6. Jun 13, 2022 at 9:21 AM
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    I’ll have to take your word on that, I know only the basics on alignment charts. what I meant was that the 882’s have maxed out the sitting angle of the uca with these tires. The delphi branded upper control arms are identical to oem, completely non adjustable as you said.
    The cam adjusters control both caster and camber on these trucks, so I assumed they wouldn’t be able to correct that much caster without losing the camber.
     
  7. Jun 14, 2022 at 12:00 AM
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    If your cam adjusters are working correctly, the alignment tech should be able to get a little positive caster without hurting camber. The more lift you have does make it harder to get the caster higher, but they should be able to get between 1.5-2° positive.

    It's pretty obvious your tech chose not to touch those adjusters as the caster numbers from the before and after readouts were identical. If the camber changed very slightly, it is only from adjusting the toe and the steering wheel being centered.

    If it were me, I'd call them on it. If they choose to do nothing at that point, find a shop who will do the alignment correctly.

    FWIW, caster is what gives the truck a great driving feel. The higher the better. Personally, I like +3° of caster. With it that high, no more buffeting from side winds or when passing a semi and the truck is unfazed by ruts in the highway. I'll bet right now yours is very twitchy at highway speeds.
     
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  8. Jun 14, 2022 at 7:12 AM
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    I need to take my GX back then. It’s all over in winds after they aligned for the lift on it. I didn’t get a print out. Same shop I have always used that’s done me right.
     
  9. Jul 1, 2022 at 6:57 AM
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    Pic of the 04 Prerunner with OME 880's/nitros in the front and Dakar/nitros in the rear

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    How many miles do you have on this setup? I just installed dakars and 2881’s. Mine has just a little more rake than I’d like.
     
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    Just got them on recently so not many miles, have some rear rake too, but thinking will settle down a bit with the camper shell. I was debating if I should add the extra leaf at one point which would of been higher.
     
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    You may have to preload the rear some then. Those 881s are stronger than the 880s but once the strut tops out, well, it’s topped out. I have heard of people using a couple of those heavy QuickCrete bags in the bed to bring it down until the leaves settle a bit. One, or two, on each side between wheel well hump and tailgate. Depending on your location the overnight dew or just humidity can cause it to ‘set’ and it will mold to the ridges in the bed better.
     
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    2881’s and standard Dakar leaf pack. 285/75/16 KM3’s on stock Enkei wheels.C2730EBC-1EC9-42A6-9522-651180AEBA9B.jpg
     
  14. Aug 5, 2022 at 12:07 PM
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    OME complete suspension kit along with JBA upper control arms. 881's in the front Dakar without AAL in the rear. Definitely a different ride, really happy with how it turned out.
     
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