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Old Man Emu setups on 1st gens

Discussion in '1st Gen. Tacomas (1995-2004)' started by kyle39, Feb 19, 2011.

  1. Oct 19, 2022 at 8:23 AM
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    Wanderlust Bus

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    So, I am replacing my OME shocks all the way around and I'm reviewing my original purchase from Wheeler's/Low Range Offroad 3 years ago and my original invoice says the part number for my rear springs is CS046RA/B but when I go onto their site and look up the springs for my truck it calls out EL122RA/B for the part number for both stock and heavy load. The ARB/OME fitment guide calls out EL122RA/B as the correct spring for my truck. The leaf springs look like they are really sagging but they are just less than 3 years old and I can't imagine they are worn out this soon. I've spent far too much time researching this with no real answers that I can find. Do any of you guys know the difference in these springs? What is the correct spring to use for a heavy load application?

    I'm planning to install 882 springs in the front to replace the 881 that are not enough to support the bumper and winch.
     
  2. Oct 19, 2022 at 8:53 AM
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    The EL122RA/B replaced the CS046RA/B part number when they redesigned the leaf packs. I'd check with ARB directly and ask what the specific differences are between the two. Their US based tech support line is top notch.

    I see you have a cap in your picture. Are you running with an AAL? ARB recommends an AAL to the pack if you are 200+ lbs load. The cap puts you very close to that.

    When I installed my kit, I also did the AAL. Hasn't given me any issues and I'm well over the 200+ additional when including gear in the bed, roof rack, storage boxes on cap and cap.

    I too will be replacing coils soon. When I installed the kit, I installed 881s with nitros. Because of the swap to 4wd and adding a winch to the ARB, I'll be swapping in 883 coils.

    Really satisfied with the kit as a whole.
     
  3. Oct 19, 2022 at 9:02 AM
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    Did you have CV boot issues with the 881?
     
  4. Oct 19, 2022 at 9:34 AM
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    Other than the ribs on the inboard boot making contact closest to the diff, nope. Haven't had any actual road time yet though. Finishing up the swap - trans install. They actually may be ok. I've noticed more of a slight visual dip in the front since bolting up everything. Figure with adding a winch it's going to drop even more.
     
  5. Oct 19, 2022 at 9:35 AM
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    Ah. That makes sense. I am not using the AAL, but from my research, I probably should. I've got the cap and a ton of gear in the bed plus a couple mtn bikes much of the time.

    I'm starting to think that Low Range Offroad gave me bad info when I originally ordered this setup 3 years ago. They recommended the 880 front spring and did not recommend the AAL. I should have used the 882 and the AAL all along. I just barely ordered the 882 and they are supposed to be delivered tomorrow.

    I originally started with the 880 spring and changed to the 881 about a 18 months ago. I have noticed a little wear on the boot, but it hasn't failed yet. My plan is to keep these axles till the boots fail then upgrade to long travel CV axles.
     
  6. Oct 19, 2022 at 9:40 AM
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    sheesh. After reading this thread and having to replace my entire setup, I think I might just actually return the unused parts, sell the slightly used parts, and just buy some good (king, icon, ADS) coilovers, shocks, and Alcan springs. OME should not wear out in less than 3 years.
     
  7. Oct 19, 2022 at 9:41 AM
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    Yep, they should've started you off with the 881s. As I understand it and I could be wrong, the 882s are taller than the 881s whereas the 883s are the same height as the 881s but higher rated. You might find yourself stinkbug with the front slightly higher than the rear. Have some discussions with wheelers or even just go straight to the source, ARB US Tech Support. 1 (866) 293-9078
     
  8. Oct 19, 2022 at 9:49 AM
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    Been 4 years for me and I've had zero issues. Leaf packs have not frowned at all. Front is probably fine also if I don't add the winch. Completely satisfied with my OME choice.

    Sorry you're having issues. Hopefully you can work them out quick.
     
  9. Oct 19, 2022 at 10:38 AM
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    I was thinking of going to 881 from 880. I've been satisfied with the 880 but have plans in the future to do a front bumper and winch. Looks like 883 would be the better choice?

    In all honesty, I'm thinking of just going Kings or ADS and calling it a day but hate to have to constantly rebuild them. I like the simplicity of the OME setup.
     
  10. Oct 19, 2022 at 11:23 AM
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    Oh hell. My bad. I just dug up my DM exchange with Josh over at Wheeler's at the time I picked up the ARB bumper. Ignore the part about the mounting kit (My ARB is from a forum member and I was looking at replacing the mounting hardware).

    Looks like he recommended the 882s if I want to keep my current stance. I still want to confirm that since its not just additional weight from a winch but now includes CVs, front diff, etc. @Wanderlust Bus, sorry bud - 882s are apparently the correct choice - not 883s.

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    Also there's this -

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    I went thru this back in 2014, started with 881's and a 1/2" aluminum spacer, then went to 883's with a 1/4" spacer, then to 882's, with 1/4" spacer, then removed the spacer and stayed with the 882's.
    The 882's will net the same lift as the 883's with a slightly softer ride and better compression/upstroke. 883's have thicker, but less coils, 882's thinner but more coils.
    Some pics of the two compressed on a test rock. The entire saga starts on page one and runs thru page four if you're bored and want to read it
    https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/bretts-average-build-thread.305098/page-4#post-7992894
     
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    Full OME kit with 882s and Dakar with AAL in the back. On 33s a 1 inch adapters up front but pretty much stock other than that. Topper probably weights 250-300 pounds

    IMG_1672.HEIC.jpg
     
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    thats not a topper... its a HOUSE! :rofl:
    Color matched Impulse Red grille FTW!
     
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    what kind of camper? homemade?
     
  15. Oct 24, 2022 at 9:00 AM
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    Can anyone speak to the fit of OMESB121 bushings for the rear frame shackle mount on an ‘03 4WD? I’m using a Safe T Cap replacement with the same inner diameter of the factory one but the bushings had to be forced in (fought the entire way in) and are now bulging around the outside rim. The greaseable pins had to be pounded in. That isn’t right is it? In the pic, that isn’t even tightened. 75B2CED0-E972-4713-A560-7621D342BB2A.jpg
     
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    Hey so I am getting an OME Kit for my 1999 2.7L Extra cab and have decide on 882s to get the lift I’m looking for. Cruiser outfitters told me going with UCAs wouldn’t be the worst idea and I’d rather have a close to perfect alignment and less issues and spend the extra coin. The question now is which one’s? I’ve seen a lot of back and forth on SPC UCAs but understand they have the best adjustability? I was also looking at the icon deltas as the delta joints seem great. I was hoping someone here might have some insight on which UCAs to run. I need them to last as I’m a college student so if I’m spending the money it’s what I have and don’t have time to replace stuff all the time. I also spend a lot of time snow camping in my truck during ski season and was thinking the sealed deltas would be better and less maintenance but would love some opinions.

    oh and how are people feeling about the diff drop these days? Depends? Going 2 inches so
     
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    diff drop did nothing for me on 882’s. Makes the skid plate even more of a pain to get on/off
     
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    I’ve had mine on and off three times now, the greasable shackle has to be tapped in with a mallet, but certainly isn’t difficult. Same with the bushing itself, it’s a very snug fit, but just tapped right in with a mallet
     
  19. Oct 25, 2022 at 6:54 PM
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    Do you have any added weight up front (armor, winch, etc)? If not, not sure you'll be happy with those 882s.
     
  20. Oct 25, 2022 at 7:13 PM
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    I’ve ran both SPC, JBA and Icon and JBA have far and away been the best.
     

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