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OME 885 coils and 5100 bilsteins

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by Tacoma2nd, Jul 6, 2011.

  1. Jul 6, 2011 at 4:29 PM
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    I have a regular cab 06 tacoma. i want to get rid of the coil spacers and switch to the OME 885 coils and the 5100 bilsteins. Is it bad if i put the billys on the highest lift setting? if so why? if anyone has this set up please post pics. thanks.
     
  2. Jul 6, 2011 at 5:33 PM
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    Yes, this would be considered stacking lifts. Your shocks will have zero down travel left, and your ball joints will bind.

    You can't go over 3" total lift on a Tacoma without a drop bracket lift, body lift, or SAS.
     
  3. Jul 6, 2011 at 5:42 PM
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    Also consider that 5100s were designed to level trucks with stock coils, which are not as strong (spring rating) as 885s. I have a 1st gen, so I don't know any spec on the 2nd gen stock coils, but for comparison, stock 1st gen TRD coils are 375 lb rating, and OME 881s (which provide about 2 in lift) are 500 lb rating.

    But, the 5100 perches and the rings milled into the shock tubes and the retaining clip are designed for stock coil loads, not stronger aftermarket coils. So, I believe it is potentially unsafe to use a setting higher than zero on the 5100s with the 885s. At least this is the case on similar first gen setups.

    Theoretically, if you are using OMEs, the taller coil provides the lift, so you don't need the lift the higher 5100 settings provide.
     
  4. Jul 6, 2011 at 6:10 PM
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    OP, what are you trying to accomplish?
     
  5. Jul 7, 2011 at 4:47 PM
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    i have an add a leaf in the back and 2.5 inch coil spacers so its lifted but not leveled out. i wanted enough lift with the 885 coils and the billys to level out my truck. will the 885 coils and the bilsteins set at 0 level it out? whats the best thing to do?
     
  6. Jul 8, 2011 at 7:35 AM
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    OK, I'll bite.

    V6 guys get about 2.5" of lift using 885s with 5100s set at zero, so with your 4 banger, you'll be close to if not level.

    I'm also thinking you might even experience a rough ride. Using 885s on a regular cab 4 banger is like v6 guys using 886s w/o the added weight upfront.
     
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    x2, might want to consider the 884's with the top place spacer unless you're armored up. Also, as mentioned above, don't go above the 0 setting with the OME coils, let the coils do the lifting. OME coils are tall enough where they do not need to be pre-loaded.
     
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    Sounds like you got a 2" AAL. The 1.5" is what you needed to be level with 2.5" up front.
     
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    I know this thread is old, but if a regular cab had an aftermarket bumper, say ballpark 100lbs, would then 885s be applicable? or would a reg cab guy always want to stick with 884s? I'm looking to get 3in of lift and am worried that if I go with 884s and then put an aftermarket bumper i'll be regretting not getting the 885s.
     
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    I know this is old but I would like to know the same thing. I got ome 885s and bilstein 5100 and the front end sits lower than the back by maybe an inch I want to know how much more it will sag with an arb bumper and maybe a winch.
     
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    I can't speak to the specific amount, but it will most likely drop some more with the addition of an ARB bumper and winch. Alot of guys switch to the 886s when adding any weight up front for this reason.
     
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    Aren't you better off using the TOYTEC coils with the BILSTEINS? That's what was I was going to do when I replace my stock coils so I can get a full 3" lift.
     
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    "better off" ? - no

    It's mainly preference as there are probably hundreds of members on here running OME coils w/ Bilsteins including myself.
     
  14. Jan 24, 2017 at 5:13 AM
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    I was always under the impression OME/5100 were a no no, I learn something new everyday lol!
     
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    Define "better off".

    5100's are not engineered to minimum specs of stock coils....ie...They'll work well with coils that are stiffer rate than oem, so long as that isn't done to excess. The 885X's work just fine. There is a running myth about what brand of coils were intended for which brand of shocks. I'm sure OME intended for OME coils, but they aren't limited to OME coils, and Bilsteins work equally well with several brands of coils.

    I've used Toytec coils/shocks with mixed results. (Shocks were damaged by someone prior to my installing them)

    I'm currently on 5100's (f&r) 885X coils w/1/2" poly spacers, 2" Deavers AAL in rear. 110% pleased with results.

    Personally do NOT care for OME shocks for a variety of reasons. Others will differ. I'm OK with that. Just won't find 'em on MY truck.

    Do NOT preload ANY coil beyond it's intended static ride height. Doing so will almost always exceed the shock's ability to dampen rebound, causing a harsher ride. Control lift/ride height with coil length, not coil compression/preload.
     
  16. Jan 24, 2017 at 5:23 AM
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    Probably the most commonly used set up for lifting Tacoma's that you will find. Works ideally.
     
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    I was wondering how much it would sag because I read somewhere that the 885s would be good enough to support an off-road bumper on a regular cab and would a toytec spacer lift maybe help it sit level with the bumper.
     
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