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ome shocks or 5100s w/ ome coils?

Discussion in 'Suspension' started by KMADA, Oct 16, 2008.

  1. Oct 16, 2008 at 1:48 PM
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    KMADA

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    I've seen quite a few people running the ome coils with the 5100s at stock.

    Would you prefer 5100 or ome shocks with the ome coils?

    Ps.. I use it as a daily driver barely any off road. And it's an 08 trd sport prerunner. trying to run 285s

    pics would be nice too..
     
  2. Oct 16, 2008 at 1:55 PM
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    Since the OME shocks are valved for the OME coils, I recomend the OME shocks. Pics are in my gallery. :)
     
  3. Oct 16, 2008 at 2:29 PM
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    What's cheaper? OME shocks or 5100s'?

    I'm gonna assume the 5100's are more expensive than OME (or any other brand of regular strut/coilover).

    The 5100's along with your stock coils will do the same thing as a set of OME coils with OME (or other brand) strut/shock.

    Seems almost pointless (to me anyway) to go with 5100's PLUS OME lift coils together. **and I'm only thinking of this in a 'money' aspect of things.
     
  4. Oct 16, 2008 at 2:37 PM
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    The OME shocks are much more $$$$. OME springs are a higher spring rate and the 884's are a little longer than stock. The 5100's gain lift by compressing/preloading the stock springs, and are valved accordingly.
    Yes, they will both lift your truck, BUT, as the OME shocks are valved for their springs, which are a 590# spring rate as opposed to the factory 540# rate, they will do a much better job dampening the spring. Many people choose to get the OME coils to replace/upgrade their factoy springs and gain 3" of lift. Some people have done this after they had already purchased Bilstien 5100's for use with their factory springs only to find the ride is not what they had in mind. Since they already spent $200.00 or so dollars on the Billies, they may not be too fond of spending another $270.00 for OME shocks.
     
  5. Oct 16, 2008 at 2:39 PM
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    5100s are actually cheaper (downsouthmotors ebay) at 270 for all 4.

    The reason why I do wanna add the ome coils is for the full 3" lift rather then the 5100s at 2.5" which I'm not sure I'll be satisfied with looks wise.
     
  6. Oct 17, 2008 at 10:04 PM
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    You need to install the additional spacer to get the full 3". I got 2.5" with 885's on 5100's at the stock setting.
     
  7. Oct 17, 2008 at 11:46 PM
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    how would you consider the quality of the ride?
     
  8. Oct 18, 2008 at 5:48 AM
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    I got 3.25" with the OME shocks, but that has settled to 3" without the spacer. FWIW. :)
     
  9. Oct 19, 2008 at 5:32 PM
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    The ride got a little more firm, but not too bad.
    Also, maybe I only got 2.5" of lift due to the additional weight of 4X4 running gear. Prerunners should get more.
     
  10. Oct 19, 2008 at 10:05 PM
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    Toytec offers the front 5100s with a coilover ($799) which includes the machined upper assembly and sway bar relocation brackets:
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    If you already have the 5100s you can get the coilover kit for $429. ($270 for all four from ebay + $429 + $30 for the sway bar relocation kit = $729). The toytec kit above comes with the machined aluminum upper assembly whereas the coilover kit uses the stock top.
     
  11. Oct 19, 2008 at 10:25 PM
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    would I then need new uca's for the wandering? Or is it mostly not too noticeable?
     
  12. Oct 20, 2008 at 8:07 AM
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    Does anyone have any experience with the toytec coilovers? Pictures would be nice too
     
  13. Oct 20, 2008 at 8:17 AM
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    I ordered the bilstein 5100 set from DownSouth motorsports on ebay ($270), the adjustable coilover kit ($429), the machined upper assembly ($139) and diff drop kit ($29) from ToyTec. ($429 + $270 + $139 + $29 = $867) I could have used the stock top plate for the strut assembly, but I wanted a complete swap, keeping the stock stuff assembled. So, this was a touch more expensive than the $799 kit, but I also got the rear shocks (which I hear are a better ride).

    Also bought Total Chaos UCAs.

    All the parts should be here this week and I'm planning to install it Friday night. I will be posting pics when I'm done.
     
  14. Oct 20, 2008 at 4:29 PM
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    You would need UCA's that correct for lost caster, like TC, or Camburg.
     
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    sweet keep me posted. By the way, are you gonna use an aal?
     
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    I ordered an AAL for the rear, but I don't think I'm going to use it just now. Right now, the rear is exactly 3" higher than the front (after the rear TSB). So, when I put the 3" lift on the front, it will be level. I wouldn't mind having the rear higher than the front (I like a little rake :p) but Minnesota state law says that your bumper can't be more than 25" off the ground. Right now, the rear is 23". When I put the 285s on (2.2" higher than stock) I'll be just over 25".

    So, no AAL just yet...
     
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    ^^i believe there are laws like that here in cali, but I have never seen, or heard about them being enforced..i know some people with some tall ass trucks...
     
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    I agree - they probably aren't strictly enforced. But, I've only been here for a few months and I'm not really comfortable with pushing the limits just yet.

    Also, when I look around at all the vehicles driving around this state, I can't tell you that I have seen ANY lifted trucks. So, I'll save the rear for when I move somewhere else... :) By that time, the rear will have settled a bit.
     
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    or you could get airbags and a radar :D
     
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    Got a Valentine 1 already. And airbags are a little too ghetto for me...
     
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