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Opinions on planned suspension combo

Discussion in 'Suspension' started by wi_taco, May 17, 2021.

  1. May 17, 2021 at 12:01 PM
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    wi_taco

    wi_taco [OP] Well-Known Member

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    Looking for opinions on a planned upgrade before I pull the trigger because money don't grow on trees and I don't want to do this twice.

    Current setup on my 2015 TRD DCSB: Bilstein 6112 up front with 600lb coils on zero setting, Toyota OEM 4 leaf (TSB?) packs and Bilstein 5160 in the rear. I also have a Leer 100XR camper shell, a customer drawer/platform built out of 1/2 plywood that will weigh 100+ lbs, will sometimes carry a kayak on the shell using Yakima crossbars, and plan to add a rear bumper and bolt-on sliders (4xInnovations/BAMF/etc) in near future. Plan to always carry 100lbs in the drawer/platform system so I'm assuming it's a good 400-500lbs over stock at all times.

    Planning to do Deaver U402 Expedition Stage 2 leafs in the rear with Archive Stealth HD U-bolt flip kit and one of the bumpstop options. From that will adjust the front Bilstein 6112's to get the desired rake/leveling. I know up front that the rear 5160 shocks will be a limiting factor but I keep it mostly on the street so this shouldn't be an issue for the immediate future.

    Main concerns are that I keep the lift to a minimum because the overhead door on my garage is super low, and that I get back to a more leveled-out configuration so my headlights don't blind people with these saggy OE leafs.

    Choosing the Deavers because OME is reported to squeak and flatten, Icon RXT isn't as robust, and others are just inferior. Also considering a custom pack from Alcan or others but the U402 seems like a good off-the-shelf option that is widely available.

    Any thoughts and suggestions appreciated, thanks!

    Edit 5/18: Somehow I missed that Dobinsons has rear leafs and most people are very happy with them. These might win over the Deavers but I need to read more first.
     
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  2. May 17, 2021 at 12:07 PM
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    JasonLee

    JasonLee Hello? I'm a truck.

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    If you want to stay stock height and all of your weight is going to be on the rear in the bed and cantilevered off the back on the bumper (spare tire, jerry cans, etc), why not just get some air bags? Especially since you "keep it mostly on the street".

    Firestone Ride-Rite airbags and Daystar cradles. This way you can adjust for when you load up with the kayaks, full cooler, firewood, etc and when unloaded you can have the perfect ride height without risking the ability to fit in the garage.

    https://www.amazon.com/dp/B001FEOSJY/
    https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0084ROJBM/
     
  3. May 17, 2021 at 12:31 PM
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    Thanks I've considered options like airbags or AAL but have decided I want to go full leaf pack. OE springs aren't going to get any better over time and to me bags are a band-aid. Just my preference.

    A small bit of lift will be OK and I can still fit in the garage. I don't absolutely need to stay stock height, just my preference to stay relatively close (i.e. no more than 2" if I can pull it off) so I don't cause other problems that are common when lifting like driveline vibes or harsh CV angles.
     
  4. May 17, 2021 at 12:36 PM
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    With the requirement of 0-2" lift and that weight capacity, I'd give Alcan a call and talk to them. I'm going through the same process right now with having a camper on my truck. When it's "empty" (Fridge, camper, tools) I have adjusted the lights, but when I load up for a longer trip, I have 1" up-travel.

    I'm still considering airbags since I have the stock leaves + the Icon progressive 3-leaf AAL pack.
     
  5. May 17, 2021 at 1:46 PM
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    Thanks. I'm keeping Alcan in mind but for now Deaver U402 still seems to be the best option I can find for the application that is an off-the-shelf offering. That's not to say a custom pack is any better/worse/indifferent just more readily available from multiple vendors.
     
  6. May 18, 2021 at 12:03 AM
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    I've got the Baja kit on mine, which is essentially 6112's with 650# springs, set to 1.5" over stock in the front with 5160's in the back. I have Deaver u402 stage 2's as well. Currently I've got 400lbs loaded in the bed using ammo cans filled with sand. I was going to use this as a temporary solution until I decide on either a GFC or a super pacific camper but I still have a pretty aggressive rake on the truck. I think I might swap back to my stock Leafs, potentially with an AAL just so I can take out all of the unnecessary weight and level the truck out.
     
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  7. May 18, 2021 at 6:45 AM
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    Very interesting thanks for the info. Interesting that you would still have that much rake with those settings and I'm not planning to lift the front that much if I can help it. Any photos to show the rake? Looks like you've got a 3rd gen so I'm not sure hub-to-fender measurements would compare to mine but if you've got them would be interested.
     
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  8. May 18, 2021 at 5:12 PM
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    Driveway is slanted so I’m not sure if this’ll be 100% accurate, but, this is with 400lbs of sand in the bed. EF6B8CFF-54EF-4513-BFA5-CCB4BD0166E9.jpg
     
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  9. May 18, 2021 at 7:48 PM
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    Thanks for sharing that photo really helps. I’ve been reading some more and thinking maybe the Dobinsons leaf packs are better suited for my goals (didn’t know about them until today so they weren’t on my radar). Decisions, decisions…
     
  10. May 18, 2021 at 9:07 PM
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    These are the stage 2's though, so maybe stage 1 would be better suited?
     
  11. May 19, 2021 at 5:28 AM
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    That’s a possibility. From what I can tell Dobinsons middle leaf pack has the option to remove a leaf and make it into the lighter duty pack. Again I have to do more reading but that seems like it could be a good option as I could install as stage 1 and if it’s not enough I can put in the stage 2 leaf.

    Edit: never mind I see what you are saying. Deaver stage 1 could be an option too.
     
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