Philly tasered 17year old

It depends on your point of view. I don't think that was abuse. The cop was doing his job. It's not like he repeatedly tase'd him or anything.

 

Tase him again.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSYlxzCHvKg

 

You need to read the article a little more closely. They say that tasing was the cause of death in just 50 cases. They do NOT say that a SINGLE tase was the cause in these cases.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrqFJjj85Uc&feature=related

^-----a lot of batteries needed for this. i'm sure everyone in this crowd would agree to no tazing. they are on the field....which is a crime...why were there not 15,000 arrests?

 

You're right, but it doesn't say it wasn't either.

 

best part..!!

 

i think its pretty obvious he was not a threat. he's been referred to as a criminal a couple times, not sure if i agree with that. but either way, he did something stupid, he got tased. i'm not even sure why its a big deal. now if he was beaten with a night stick, or had his arm pulled so hard during cuffing it broke or got dislocated then yeah, i'd agree that the cops went to far. but we're talking about a little electricity. he was up walking on his own power in less than a minute. and lets keep in mind this is the kind of think less lethal weapons were designed for. they are meant for when someone is doing someting wrong and needs to be stopped but not killled. so what would have happened if the cop tackled him and due to the size difference he ruptured the kids spleen or hyper extended the kids knee or even just broke his nose? then everone would be crying for the cop to be suspended and investigated and the kid would prolly sue the police department. poor cop was damned if he did damned if he didn't. either way people just look for excuses to dislike cops

 

So you take the following two quotes:

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and you make the assumption that all 50 deaths came from a 'single taser shock'???

Articles like this one are written for people like you. They grab you with a headline about how terrible something is, then try to bury the facts in the story in such a way that the reader doesn't understand that they headline was sensationalized.

Let me re-state the quotes above.
Fact 1: At least 50 people's deaths (of the headline's 334) were attributed to tasers
Fact 2: Many of the people who died from tasers died due to prolonged or repeated shocks.

Do you still think that, given the two facts above, the story is telling us that 50 people died from the first shock?

Also, we STILL don't know the total number of times a taser has been used. All of these numbers are useless without that total.

 

so what if he is an example? what do you think prison is? it gets criminals off the street and provides an example for other citizens; "break the law, go to jail". if there are no consequences then we'd all do stupid shit all the time. i know i would. i break the law literally every day, but if i get caught i fully expect to be punished. i dont want to be punished but i've weighed the good and the bad and decided to do what i want to do. the kid did the same.

pretty good post for a stupid cop

i never said they were pussies, i said they were the problem with America. the "no consequences" mentality has spread and most of Americas problems can be traced back to that. Enron, Wall Street, banks, national debt, the economy, .... it can all be traced back to the attitude of "i'll do what i want and fuck the consequences" and the problem is, the vast majority of the people who sold out America never got in a bit of trouble. Obviously running on a baseball field and cashing out all your employees 401k's are two opposite sides of the spectrum but the mentality is the same (granted, on a much smaller scale).

 

He was talking to me.

 

See, you are really missing the point. Tasers are toted as non-lethal, which they are not, clearly. One of the kids that died from a taser was an 11 year old girl that punched a PO. Yes, she punched him and tased her and killed her. She was wrong to do that, but she was a kid. I'm sure the PO was much bigger and more intelligent (well that might be debatable) then she was. If the kid on the Philly field would have died, the outcry of excessive force would be huge. It just so happens that the kid didn't have a heart condition or other medical condition. Yes, the kid was wrong for jumping onto the field, but his actions did not justify placing his life in potential risk.

Just imagine if you were the PO that tased the kid and the kid died, wouldn't you feel like shit knowing that you just killed some kid that was no threat to anyone for really a very silly reason? Common sense as when to use them is necessay. Have we as a society lost sight of what a normal reaction to things are? Next thing you know some kid is going to be tased for throwing a water balloon in a water balloon fight.

 

its hard to provide a solution because its becoming obvious that you are either just fucking around, or obviously a borderline retard. your one and only solution is "trip him"....... seriously? how do you trip someone who is 4 feet in front of you and more athletic?

i'm assuming you are between 16 and 19 years old. please tell me i'm wrong

really? please reference my above post

 

i volunteered to be tased once and it f%&king sucks.honestly if a cop pulled a 9mm i might still run but if he pulled out a taser i would stop dead in my tracks. he deserved though he shouldnt have been an idiot. if everyone could expierience it not to many people would go running from fat old security gaurds.haha

 

The comparison of the 11 year old girl to the guy on the field is ridiculous. I can't think of more of a response than that. They're not related in any way.

If the Philly kid had been killed by the tase, my first reaction would have been, "Shouldn't have been acting like such a dumbass." After all of this debate, my initial reaction wouldn't have changed.

 

If grandma had nuts, she'd be grandpa. If a frog had wings it woudln't bust it's ass every time it jumped. You're playing what-if. So, what if the cop tackled him and the kid broke his neck. Would you be screaming "He should have just tased him instead of jumping on him!"? Probably.

 

Really? ? So you think if someone commits a misdameanor, then death is warrented?

 

Excllent point.

My biggest problem is that I'm sick of people being so GD concerned with the rights of the dip shit breaking the law. Don't want to get tased? Don't want to possibly die? Don't want to get shot? Take some personal responsibility, act like an upstanding member of society, and DON'T BREAK THE F***ING LAW!

 

Did I say that? You read my posts as well as you read that article.

If you're willing to take an action, you need to be willing to accept responsibility for that action. If you drive your car while drunk, you don't DESERVE to die, but you need to be willing to accept the fact that you COULD die. If you break into a house, you don't DESERVE to die, but you need to be willing to accept the fact that you might get shot, and that could lead to your untimely demise.

If you want to run out on the field like an asshat, you should be willing to accept the fact that you're going to get tackled, tased, or shot. (Yes, I said shot... I won't be surprised if somebody is shot for doing this one day... somebody who takes actions that are much more threatening.)

Stop being so concerned with the rights of the criminal.