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Please! Need Help with a scam

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016+)' started by Chance03, Nov 19, 2019.

  1. Jan 12, 2020 at 10:54 AM
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    Rottencotton

    Rottencotton Well-Known Member

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    Looks like a troll and run.
     
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  2. Jan 12, 2020 at 11:15 AM
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    My experience is that repo towing/storage fees are different. Regular, non-contract per day storage prices are all over the map. I’ve seen property owners, mechanics shops and tow companies charge some pretty ridiculous amounts. Different laws in each area but we were required to try and notify the vehicle owner of any pending towing/storage fees within a certain amount of time (registered letter, ad in local paper, etc) in order to get paid or to begin the process of transferring ownership. If the OP’s situation is legit, he might want to notify the legal title owner that they’re getting charged per day (via registered mail etc)

    Agreed, the OP is prob screwed. I could be wrong but I’ve never heard of state laws that cap storage fees; only city or county by-law caps (insurance companies have been known to post a lot of official-looking online BS info regarding max towing and storage fees) Also, the OP said the truck was in his garage and indoor storage is always way more than outdoor storage. Climate controlled indoor storage is even more again.
    Other than getting a lawyer and suing, storage fees might be the only way to recoup some of his cash after the bank comes and gets their truck back.....
     
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  3. Jan 12, 2020 at 11:32 AM
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    monkeyface

    monkeyface Douchebag, or just douche if we're friends

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    Interesting read. Caveat Emptor. I bet I could be fooled by a good photocopy of a title, especially out of state.

    Do you folks when you make a cash private party purchase ask the seller for ID to make sure the seller is the same as on the title? I never have, but I do show buyers my ID when I sell private party.

    I prolly could have been burned a few times on cash PP purchases. I bought a trailer cash at a storage lot, turned out ok, got a fresh title after purchase, but the seller could have been anybody.
     
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  4. Jan 14, 2020 at 7:22 PM
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    Fulton246

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    Not sure about title tranfer laws in other states, but in NC the title has to be signed by both the owner and buyer while in the presence of a notary. The notary is responsible for checking identification before stamping. It would be very hard to create a legitimate looking photocopy of a NC title.
     
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  5. Jan 14, 2020 at 8:45 PM
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    Geoff.in.nc

    Geoff.in.nc Hey y'all, watch this!

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    I disagree. I've sold one car and donated another to a charity in the past 8 months in NC. I was told the buyer's name (and address?) needs to be on the title when the seller signs and is notarized. We did not notarize the buyer's info. In the case of the donation, the "buyer" of record wasn't a person, it was the charity, and there was nobody to notarize as a buyer. They just had a roll-off driver pick up the car and the signed/notarized title.
     
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  6. Jan 15, 2020 at 3:11 PM
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    Yeah, varies by state. When I was living in Indiana, my son (in Australia) asked me to sell his Jeep. Needless to say, he didn't sign the title ;);)
     
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  7. Jan 15, 2020 at 5:59 PM
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    I've never donated a car to a charity organization so I dont know how they sign, but in a title transfer between two people the buyer has to print and sign their full name and provide their address. That is so the DMV will know who to register as the owner. Regardless, the title has to be notarized with the seller's signature. That requirement and the type of paper that titles are printed on make it hard to scam someone using a photocopy.
     
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  8. Jan 15, 2020 at 9:08 PM
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    Geoff.in.nc

    Geoff.in.nc Hey y'all, watch this!

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    Agreed.
     
  9. Jan 16, 2020 at 8:08 AM
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    I have experience with this.

    2006, I bought a rare 97 LR Defender online. The truck was real but it came with a fake retitled 1983 LR Defender from Seattle. Truck got shipped to NJ. Being that Defenders were rare, it wasn't hard for Seattle investigator to track down to the seller and, subsequently to me. They’ve got a hold of the shipping record which made it easy for the local law enforcement. When I registered the truck in NJ, it immediately went in the database and within two weeks, cops showed up at my door with a tow truck.

    Fortunately, the local investigator had all the backstories from the Seattle cops and with my emails back and forth with the seller, they had me signed an affidavit that I was a victim of online fraud. The seller fleed to Mexico but they were able to track and froze the funds. I've got some of my money back after 4 1/2 years.

    Start keeping your paper trail and go to the police and get a report right away. Don't wait.
     
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  10. Jan 18, 2020 at 9:04 AM
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    Finally got ahold of investigator who’s been working my case and he is frustrated cause he keeps running into dead ends and no one can seem to find the selller. The local DA won’t sign off on it being a criminal case even though investigators think 2 felonies have been committed so we can’t Subpoena The dmv in home state, the bank or the dealership for the information we need. So he recommended applying for a bonded title. He is going to give me a clean vin inspection that I take to the dmv, supposedly they are going to send it to the sellers last known address and if they don’t get a response within 30 days then I can at least register and drive the damn thing. If the bank doesn’t respond within 30 days of me registering it then I can apply for new title in my name. Let’s hope no one cares about this thing!
     
  11. Jan 18, 2020 at 10:03 AM
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    You said you wanted to get the bank responding... Now you get what you asked for, or you get a clear title. :fingerscrossed:
     
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  12. Jan 18, 2020 at 10:37 AM
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    What happened with this? It doesn't make sense. How can the bank hold the title, but at the same time you have a photocopy? They don't send you a title until the vehicle is paid for.
     
  13. Jan 18, 2020 at 10:50 AM
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    Give it back to the bank, and sue the aHole for your money. Or you could try to work it out with the bank.
     
  14. Jan 18, 2020 at 11:19 AM
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    Good luck!!
     
  15. Jan 18, 2020 at 11:27 AM
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    Hstone556

    Hstone556 Ain’ters gonna ain’t

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    I’m not buying anything I’m reading... especially not for $35k.
     
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  16. Jan 18, 2020 at 2:43 PM
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    Read the thread. Cliff Note version. Seller paid cash, had the title in hand, made a passable copy, then gave original title to bank as collateral on a personal loan and sold the truck to the OP using the copy.

    Edit: and every state does it different.

    Edit 2: clarified who has the original title and who has the copy.
     
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  17. Jan 18, 2020 at 2:48 PM
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    If the bank tries to claim the truck, make them prove the loan they issued occured before you bought it.

    Because if they issued their loan after you bought it, then It seems to me that the bank is the victim of fraud, not you. That would mean they gave him a loan for a vehicle he no longer owned.
     
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  18. Jan 18, 2020 at 2:57 PM
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    Rottencotton

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    Title = ownership.
     
  19. Jan 18, 2020 at 3:32 PM
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    RushT Amateur Everythingist

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    Fake title = ownership??
     
  20. Jan 18, 2020 at 3:49 PM
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    The bank doesn't have the fake title, it has the real title. Re read the thread. :rolleyes:
     

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