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Please! Need Help with a scam

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by Chance03, Nov 19, 2019.

  1. Nov 21, 2019 at 8:54 AM
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    pnw.river.junkie

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    The story probably went something like "the transmission in this truck sucks, it starts to smoke going up hill, I can't stand driving the thing, I just want to cut my losses and get out of it." Pretty convincing argument honestly...
     
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  2. Nov 21, 2019 at 8:55 AM
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  3. Nov 21, 2019 at 9:19 AM
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    That was my first thought actually when I first read the OP. Who the fuck pays $35,000 in cash for a vehicle purchase transaction to a private party?

    Stinger from TheFang! Ouch man. I think he is going to need a little aloe vera after that burn.
     
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  4. Nov 21, 2019 at 9:33 AM
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    I'm probably missing something in all this but...how did the seller have the title when there is still a lien on the vehicle?
     
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  5. Nov 21, 2019 at 9:38 AM
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    Dealers are dumb and sometimes send the title to the customer. I financed with a local CU for my 4runner. Walked in with my check and had specific instructions on where to send the title(to the CU). I still got the title with no lien showing the next week. I asked my CU if they wanted me to drop it off and the girl said it’s impossible for me to have the title. “Yeah, okay, I used to work for a credit union, I have a legit title in my hand”. I just said whatever and dropped it off and said send it to consumer lending.
     
  6. Nov 21, 2019 at 9:39 AM
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    Intresting
     
  7. Nov 21, 2019 at 9:40 AM
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    Daria

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    Dealers mess up all the time. I’ve seen a similar situation to the one that OP posted with my old job. What a mess.
     
  8. Nov 21, 2019 at 9:49 AM
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    As I stated earlier, this happened to us more than once recently.

    And maybe in the future even if you have cash in hand, finance through your favorite bank or CU w/ a hefty down payment and allow the bank/CU to do their due diligence and hold, at least partially, the 'bag' so to speak. This way at least you have the bank/CU's lawyers involved.
     
  9. Nov 21, 2019 at 11:09 AM
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    I verify every transaction via my bank. There's just way to many people scamming full time and make a great living scamming people.

    -One of my experiences I was selling a custom build Dana 60 front axle for 4000.00. A person contacted me and came with a cashiers check from the bank. They wanted to take the axle right then. I wanted to verify funds. He was a little nervous about that, but went along with it. We loaded it up in the back of my truck. He was concerned someone would steal it. I wasn't concerned. If two guys could pick this axle up over the bed sides of a 3/4 ton Dodge (axle was close to 700 lbs) and walk away with it...I wasn't going to stop them.

    The bank quickly figured out the cashiers check was from a real bank and account, but that bank/account closed 1.5 years earlier.

    Saved me 4000.00

    - When selling my Tundra, the guy drove down from Denver and paid 25500.00 cash. The teller ran it through the machine twice and said everything was good. The next day the bank called and asked if I was sure the amount was 25500.00 since they were 500.00 short. I told them "that's why I had you count it and verify, not my problem."
     
  10. Nov 21, 2019 at 1:14 PM
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    What's suspect to me is all the coughing OP is doing. Sounds like he knew he was getting into a sideways deal and was trying to do some shady business with a colleague.
    Just spitballing here, but it seems like OP isn't telling us the true story.
     
  11. Nov 21, 2019 at 1:41 PM
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    I have the feel he’s gotten a hernia from laughing at us all in to falling for this Friday sounding flakytale.
     
  12. Nov 21, 2019 at 1:42 PM
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    Also a valid point.
     
  13. Nov 21, 2019 at 3:34 PM
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    I think I would have waited this out for a little while till the CU came calling for the title.....
     
  14. Nov 21, 2019 at 3:43 PM
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    Motive on the seller’s end seems clear. 1.). Finance a desireable vehicle, likely with no money down.
    2.) Sell said desireable vehicle, receive a legitimate check or, in this case, cold hard cash.
    3.) Go literally fucking anywhere you want with 35 g’s in your pocket. Maybe out of the country where you can’t be tracked? Homie is probably living his best life surfing or fishing in Costa Rica by now.
     
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  16. Nov 21, 2019 at 4:41 PM
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    OP paid $35K for a used truck from a homeless guy on the street?

    Welp. That was smart.
     
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  18. Nov 21, 2019 at 6:00 PM
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    Doesnt look like stolen property. The vehicle was sold to him by the owner. Anyone can sell a vehicle with a lien on it. What happens now is the original owner probably violated contract. OP is stuck storing the vehicle as noone will pick up the vehicle, not the original owner or the bank. OP is stuck with it, as I am sure if he does something like abandonment of the vehicle at say a parking lot of the financial company, OP will be held liable for damages, if something were to occur.
     
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  19. Nov 21, 2019 at 8:34 PM
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    Anyone can’t just sell a vehicle with a lien on it though. The original owner didn’t own the truck, the bank did/does, the bank must be paid to release the title. The original owner essentially stole the truck from the bank and sold the stolen property to the OP who was dumb enough to fall for it. The bank still owns the truck.
     
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  20. Nov 21, 2019 at 9:08 PM
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    The bank doesn't own shit. The buyer owns it, the bank lended money and holds a lien on the title as a promissory note of repayment. If the bank cannot recover the collateral, they can still recover their money in many other ways after they get judgment in court.
     
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