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POLK DB6501 VS FOCAL 165 VB

Discussion in 'Audio & Video' started by Balot64, Apr 23, 2012.

  1. Apr 23, 2012 at 10:11 PM
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    What is the sound difference between Polk db6501 VS Focal 165 vb? Is it night and day? I know I can buy two Polk db6501 on the price of one Focal 165 vb. Thanks.
     
  2. Apr 23, 2012 at 10:15 PM
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    Focal ftw!
    Haven't heard the polks...didn't have to.
     
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    Or you can buy a Hertz Audio setup for half the price that blows both of them out of the water. Seriously. When I heard these in the shop, setup next to a set of Polks AND Focals, they were such a huge difference. Made the Focals sound like cheap 50 dollar speakers. Hertz, you can't go wrong with em, I tell ya. They're made by the same company that runs Audison, an Italian high end brand.

    They're not a composite/plastic cone like most speakers are, which everytime you turn them up become very sharp on the ears.

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  4. Apr 23, 2012 at 10:29 PM
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    Hertz ftw. Mille are the best speakers on the market right now but you're bossin if you're riding around with them. I'd do Polk's just to save the money but you can't go wrong with either.
     
  5. Apr 23, 2012 at 10:43 PM
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    From the local dealer, his shop is loaded with Porsche and Lambo if it tells you anything. I got em seperately, without the tweeters for a real steal.
     
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    I'm still going to use the stock HU on my 2012 offroad, so far I ordered Kenwood XR5S, Kenwood Excelon XR-W10F and Clarion EQS746 so I have six channel for the amp. Now the debate are for front and rear speaker, I never heard of Hertz speaker, maybe out of my price range, :D What is the price range of Hertz speaker and where can I look or buy it?
     
  7. Apr 23, 2012 at 11:15 PM
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    3-500 for a full set of components. And stock headunit, how will you run RCA's to the amp/x-over network. Unless I'm missing something here, and I may as i have no experience with that Clarion you need some way to get info to the subs.
     
  8. Apr 23, 2012 at 11:27 PM
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    7-Band Rotary Equalizer
    12 dB Boost/Cut at 50 Hz, 125 Hz, 345 Hz, 750 Hz, 2.2 KHz, 6 KHz, and 16 kHz
    Auxiliary Input with Source Select Switch
    Adjustable Aux Input Sensitivity
    Subwoofer Output Level Control
    Gold-Plated Preamp Inputs and Outputs
    Rotary Volume Control and Fader
    6-Channel RCA Outputs
    Selectable 60/90 Hz Low-Pass Crossover
    Crossover Slope: 12 dB/octave
    Maximum Output Level: 7V RMS
    Input Sensitivity: 50mV–4V RMS
    Signal-To-Noise Ratio (S/N): 105 dB
    Frequency Response: 10-50,000 Hz
    Total Harmonic Distortion (THD): 0.005 %
    Input Impedance: 10K Ohms
    Output Impedance: 50K Ohms
    Stereo Separation: 82 dB @ 1 kHz
    Dimensions: 7" W x 1" H x 4" D


    That Hertz are really out of my price range. On my old cars (accord and odyssey and prelude) I used Alpine and Sony EQ's and sound pretty good.
     
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    It's pretty clear to me that you don't need my telling you this but FWIW I believe that the best speakers to be had for around/under $200 would be the Polk Audio DXi6500. Info here. It just seems to me that you've come so far and bough such high quality stuff that why skimp out now?
     
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    Can't knock hertz...although the focals do win the awards at competitions. And not necessarily just their "higher end" speakers...but sound is different to everyone. I prefer the focals myself, its what i have and wouldn't trade em for anything else.
     
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    That is why I'm asking for opinion, I had some Infinity reference on my old cars. I never had Polk or Focals before and I want to try it.
     
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    You can't just say that hertz makes focal sound like cheap speakers. I mean both brands are good and have many different lines. Polk and focal are pretty big I would recommend going to a couple local audio shops and audition them yourself. Some people here are preaching hertz but I don't like hertz until the HSK line. And when it comes the mille line I prefer the focal utopias over them. I like the way the 165vb sound and think they are worth the money. I have not heard the polks so I can't comment on them. Go audition a few speakers and get the ones YOU like. I really like focals lin-up. Sound quality is subjective.
     
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    The hertz line I own are the Hi-Energy's. Ive had quite a few stereo setups in the past and I really hate harsh sound. I like to be able to turn it up and feel like I'm at a concert... not like I'm sitting in a car with the speakers blasted. The hertz put out a warm sound... like a loudspeaker should. They handle the power great and pound some very clean mid-bass... the tweeters get a chance to do exactly what they're supposed to... fill out the sound and make it crisp.
     
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    Well there a lot of factors in a harsh set-up. A lot of people state that the Focal tweeters are harsh. In a demo board they might sound a little harsh because they are pointed right at you. All focal tweets were created to be ran off axis. All of them. To combat that they do offer different settings on the passive crossover. I run rainbow cal26 titanium tweeters and have them knocked down 3db via my mosconi 6to8. Normally they are a little harsh but with the proper settings I have them toned down and still maintaining that top end sparkle I like.
     
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    Didn't see your previous comment.... but I agree for the most. Demos are a horrible example, but through since I was a retard at 16 with a huge stereo I learned more about taste and toned it down a bit.

    My comments are mostly in reference to the woofers and not so much the tweeters. I think a woofer should have a dull sound... that it should be the "voice" of a system. I know you're thinking DUH... but some speakers tend to creep up into a tweeters range when you have cones of a harder construction. The hertz I have are a thick pulp cone. I saw them and knew I had to have them. You're right though... sound quality is subjective.
     
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    Well I disagree with you quite a bit. I like my vocals to be lively not dull. As for the mids to "creep" up I counter that with running active not running passive. Also I used to hate metal cone mids but a company called micro Precision has changed my outlook on that. All of thier lines run metal cones and sound fantastic. A lot of aluminum cone mids I have played with in the past had a tingy kind of noise to them and i hated it. I do however love the Micro Precision lines. Then again everyone of their drivers are hand made not made in china like most of the brands mentioned in this thread.
     
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    I generally don't tend to get too deep into it with crossovers. I use my 300/4 crossover to feed the components, and since I pieced this one together, the kicker tweeters came with a passive crossover. I'm very happy with it overall, I just need to get a new deck eventually.

    To end the thread jack though, like you said, sound quality is definitely subjective. Elletromedia aka Hertz and Audison is made in Italy. :)
     
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    sorry to thread Jack but hertz is made in china. We are a dealer for them.
     
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    Check the box it says made in P.R.C. Peoples Republic of China
     
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    Interesting. Hertz is Elletromedia, which is also Audison, and audison claims italy, Hertz is also based in Italy.... bastards.... LoL

    Thanks for killing my love for them. Seriously, I hate Chinese crap.
     
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