power delivery

So it makes more peak hp, but how does it make it getting there? Curious to see a dyno and what it makes between 1800-2500.

 

Usually. But the more powerful Tacoma would have less useful power.

 

Supposedly the engine was designed to bring the torque in low in the rev band. Contrary to a lot of threads on this forum this 3.5 liter V6 was designed from the ground up for the Tacoma. In fact a few reviewers have said the engine feels like the old 4.0 but when you really need to get some power, you have some extra juice higher in the rev band for passing etc. Hard to get a good gauge on the engines from people invited to these posh events by Toyota. Will be interesting to see some real reviews from some forum members here.

 

Also remember the near rear end differential. More torque is getting to the rear wheels than the gen 2.

 

huh

 

Can you elaborate? Is this a gearing difference or did they reduce driveline losses? Or something else?

 

Yes, they changed the axle ratio on the rear. This will allow more torque to get to rear wheels with less engine output. The 1 less lb ft of torque from the engine doesn't tell the full story.

 

So its like a geared s2000?

 

3.909 (16' Tacoma A/T)
3.73 (15' Tacoma A/T)

Toyota did the right thing with this power train. That increase in the final drive ratio will help the lack of low end torque a lot and will make the high end way more stronger.
I spec that the performance is in the low 15's in the quarter mile for a fully loaded tacoma.

 

Since the 16' Tacoma M/T is a 4.30 rear vs the A/T 3.909, does that mean (a) the M/T will feel stronger and/or (b) dyno with more horsies at the wheels?

I am not a smart man, thanks for helping explain this.

 

The manual one should be more faster at the expense of less fuel economy.

 

Not necessarily. Each transmission's gear ratios also have to be considered. There's most likely a reason they have different axle ratios for the manual and the automatic.

 

This thread has pretty good info about gear ratios.
https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/2016-gear-ratios-at-awesome-mt-now-with-double-overdrive.387347/

Assuming that the information is correct the M/T Tacoma will feel more peppy.

 

So using Tubesock's nicely done data comp...this implies the MT pushes more torque to the wheels in 1st/2nd, less in the 3rd, then more in 4th/5th/6th?

And this "increase" in the wheel torque is merely due to the difference in RPM the engine is operating? Am I understanding this correctly?

 

Oops, I did an edit while you were typing, just FYI.