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Pro suspension question

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016+)' started by Foozer, May 5, 2019.

  1. May 5, 2019 at 1:17 PM
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    So if I did a 1/2 top plate, would getting a 3/8 bump stop spacer off set it?
     
  2. May 5, 2019 at 1:18 PM
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    So add the top plate and throw the super bumps on, any need for bump stop spacer?
     
  3. May 5, 2019 at 1:22 PM
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    Adding a spacer to the top of the spring under hat is exactly what the pre-load adjustment does on King or Fox aftermarket. (This pre-load adjuster is exactly what you’ll be cranking down to get the height you desire with aftermarket shocks). The added weight will sag the front, and you can get that back by adding a spacer in the right place. Adding a spacer above the hat is where it gets a little risky as you can bottom the shocks before the bump stop. Now the spring rate or length on king and fox aftermarket might be different to the fox pro, that would be the only thing to warrant a swap. (But you could always change the spring in the pro shocks.)
     
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  4. May 5, 2019 at 1:25 PM
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    Depends on who you mean, but in general I personally would. It’s very apparent than most people don’t understand suspension on the 3rd gen forum, just look at all the “how much lift to fit X tires” posts, and and reply’s of Y inches. Complete crap, lift does not allow bigger tires on this particular suspension setup.
     
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  5. May 5, 2019 at 1:29 PM
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    if you do a 1/2 spacer then that would give you a total of 1" lift. You can space out the bumpstops but IMO I would say the superbumps by themselves are fine. You can throw the spacers on there for peace of mind, the only issue you would have if you spaced them out too much is bottoming out the superbumps too soon.

    One thing I would say to consider is what your goals are. Right now it seems like you are trying to identify ways to get a winch up front to work with what you currently have installed. It would be a good idea to try and figure out what your end goals are here. No point in doing spacers as a band aid fix to try and compensate for sagging if you only throw more weight on later on.

    If you plan on doing this and only this in terms of weight for the near and far foreseeable future then I say throw the spacer on, superbumps with spacers and be done. However, if you dream of sliders, skid plates, maybe a whole front end bumper or even a lo pro bumper, maybe a roof rack with some recovery gear, etc. Then I may suggest considering keeping your current suspension in good condition, going with aftermarket coilovers with 650lb springs and selling your current suspension to displace some of the cost. Buy once, cry once. Doesn't have to be kings either, plenty of options out there.
     
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  6. May 5, 2019 at 1:31 PM
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    Tacomaworld is like any other place on the internet, find out what people recommend, and then do your own research. If you take what anyone says as fact you will soon believe that vaccines cause autism, jet fuel melts steel beams, the world is flat, and 6" drop bracket lifts are the only solution.
     
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  7. May 5, 2019 at 1:34 PM
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    Only correction that I'd make... if you go aftermarket, use 700 lb springs. 3rd gens are heavier than the 2nd gens, so they ride better on the 700 lbers.

    But overall, very sage advice.
     
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  8. May 5, 2019 at 1:34 PM
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    All good information. I'm going to think on it for a few days and decide of I want to try the 1/2 spacer and super bumps or wait and do a full suspension swap
     
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  9. May 5, 2019 at 1:44 PM
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    Would you recommend super bumps with the bump spacers or just the superbumps? And would 3/4" top plate spacer with super bumps be ok as well?
     
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    If it were me, I'd keep the spacer as small as possible. Adding a winch and slimline bumper would only drop the front about 1/2". You only need a 1/4" spacer to counter act that sag.

    I would only install the super bump, no spacer with that small of a spacer plate.
     
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    sortof stock. 5100s and thats it.
    as others have said, a small 1/4 or 1/2 top plate is absolutely fine, technically i’d consider it more a “shim” than lift spacer really, because your only making a small change. big spacers will cause you issues. i’m doing some 1/4” ones myself soon.

    The other thing that i don’t think was mentioned- coil spacers (between coil and top hat) with the pro shocks- it takes them out of the operating range they were tuned for. i mean, they work, but changes the bypass tune. (talked with fox about this recently)
     
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    Thanks man:)
     
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    So 1/2" top plates and super bumps and I'm gold. I'll probably go that route
     
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    I’m also thinking of going that route, updates and pics would be appreciated. TIA
     
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    Just read on HS Offroad's website that 1/2 top plates do not require new bump stops as they are not a big enough spacer! Think I'm gonna pull the trigger
     
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    What size tires are you running?
     
  18. May 5, 2019 at 8:02 PM
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    Currently 265/75/16s, reading up on swapping to 285/75/16 though
     
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    Any pro owners on here that would discourage 285s?
     
  20. May 14, 2019 at 7:50 AM
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    Read some horror stories about top plate spacers, busting shocks. Now Im not sure about the 1/2" top plate..
     

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