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PROBLEM 2008 5 speed auto tranny

Discussion in 'Technical Chat' started by lynyrd3, Apr 12, 2018.

  1. Apr 24, 2018 at 11:37 AM
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    This hesitation issue started right after the install of the shift selection sensor ( or neutral safety sensor ) whatever it’s called ? which took care of the stalling issue :boom:. So maybe it is a semi faulty SS sensor .Got tired of asking the dealer questions because they really didn’t have an answer .:notsure: Truck is home . Drove it 90 miles to get home and it shifts fine .
     
  2. Apr 24, 2018 at 2:49 PM
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    I have to be honest at this point, to help with diagnosis, I would LOVE to put the original range sensor in and see if things went back to before. Just as a stepping stone for diagnosis. If there is no delay in engagement, and the engine stalls again the second you put it into drive, then I would lean towards an electrical or software issue over a valve or solenoid issue.
     
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  3. Apr 24, 2018 at 4:10 PM
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    I agree but why no codes right now ? That’s the tricky part .Especially if it is electrical . Service manager said there are no software updates for my truck .
     
  4. Apr 24, 2018 at 5:41 PM
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    Sometimes things just don't throw codes...


    I chased a TCC valve issue for quite some time in a 4L60E.. No codes..

    No scan tool can show what was happening but I could feel it, and no codes..

    Pulled valve body and staked the PWM solenoid... No more issues..
     
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  5. Apr 25, 2018 at 4:12 AM
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    I doubt my guy has the old sensor now . That was March 9th he swapped it out . I am going to have him order another and try that too .
     
  6. Apr 25, 2018 at 8:22 AM
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    Codes are tricky little monsters. You have to have all of the right conditions to set a code. A CEL won't just come on, or a code won't set, for just any reason. There are parameters which MUST be met before a code will set. Some will come on instantly with the first failure. Others won't come on without two consecutive drive cycles with the failure occurring both times.
     
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    Just spoke to my mechanic who swapped out the sensor and he said when he took it off it broke apart corroded. Was rusted to the transmission . He cleaned everything up and installed new sensor March 9 ,that got rid of stalling but gave it the sometime delayed engagement . He seems to think the problem is interal as does Toyota . Anyway next Friday adding new filter and Lubegard ,wish me luck !He will try and warranty the sensor and get another as a last resort but he doubts that’s the issue :notsure:
     
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  8. Apr 27, 2018 at 11:38 AM
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    If the sensor was in that bad of shape I would be concerned with the condition of the connector for the terminal. Perhaps a terminal has a corrosion issue inside the connector, or a terminal is slightly spread out making a bad connection? Just thoughts that should definitely be inspected.
     
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    Yes we will be checking that too . Also I just remembered a few weeks ago that the key can be removed from the ignition while the truck is running ! Isn’t there a connection between that and gear shifter ?
     
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    4E70A621-A224-480D-9285-43488BCF2D1A.jpgThis Guy here ?
     
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    What about the shift lock ECU . I’m able to remove the key from the ignition while it’s running ??? Could that be my problem ?
     
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    Going crazy waiting for Friday . Delayed engagement seem to happen mostly around the 4th or 5th time I move the shifter from P to D . Some days I will go 10 -12 miles and park a couple times and it doesn’t do it . Sometimes I drive 1 mile to the PO and it does it .
     
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    My mechanic wants to do the pan drop and new filter before trying a new sensor . Kind of figured that . Been reading up on transmissions and this could be as simple as a clogged filter . Which to me sounds like too many metal filings :notsure: but I am no mechanic . What else would clog up the filter . :pout:
     
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    Swapped out my FOB and my key ,had spares from when I purchased the truck . Key stays in ignition :facepalm: :oops:
     
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    Just did about 40 miles stopped and parked 4 times . Hesitation only once out of those 4 times parking .
     
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    Today hesitated about 5 times moving from P toD . Drove about 40 miles . Tomorrow’s the pan drop .
     
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    Suspecting it may be the plug from the sensor . Not sure where that plug goes ?
     
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    2008 SR5 AC SUPER WHITE V6 4x4 AT / 2020 RAV4 XLE
    Bilstein 6112s top setting ,Total Chaos UCAs ,1/4" top plate spacer driver side ,SS extended brake lines ,Old Man Emu Medium Duty Dakar leaf springs with AAL,OME carrier bearing shim , Bilstein 5125s for 2-3” of lift in rear ,Timbren SES bump stops , SS extended brake lines rear , Toytec dif drop , Hayden high performance transmission fluid cooler,aFe pro dry air filter .Baja amber driving combo ditch lights , Devil horns by Andres ,Weathertecs floor protector, American Racing wheels Baja 17x8,4.5 BS , 285/70 Falken Wildpeaks AT/3W .Body Armor rear bumper . Extra D rings in bed ,Blue sea fuse block and 100amp breaker ,HomerTaco custom grill in Super White , TRD radiator cap ,Birddawg Industries rear view mirror riser bracket ,Coverking NeoSupreme Mossy Oak seat covers , Paranoid Fabrications fuse /relay holder Painted pinch weld.Shorty antenna ,HVAC knob mod ,LED dome and map lights , Tri Fold bed cover ,UltraGauge ,Morimoto XB LED fog lights ,Energy Suspension poly body bushings and sway bar bushings ! Geartech Customs splash guards ,Salex center console organizer . Mobtown tailgate cap ,tailgate anti theft mod .X-Mat sound deadening/insulation cab floor . Mobtown weld on rock sliders 0* with kickout Raptor lined . ,NEW frame courtesy of Toyota !
    The new sensor was not adjusted properly ,unbelievable . I told my guy that could be it and he said he doubted it . But when he pulled it in his shop it delayed going in drive so he plugged in his fancy machine and figured it out . After all the digging around I did it was that simple . Been a day and a half now with no delayed engagement. Still going to drop pan and put a new filter in with some Lubegard next week for good measure .Thanks for your help . Hopefully this is the last problem :fingerscrossed:
     
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