pros and cons to bolt on vs. weld on sliders

I may be a little partial, but I think our new sliders are hands down the best offering out there, especially for a bolt-on version.





We now offer industry leading .134 wall tubing, grade 8 hardware, the most ground clearance possible, countersunk bolt holes, fully gusseted, and they still have our signature "kickout" design that we originated. Plus, minimal frame drilling is required.

I tested them on some hard trails as bolt-on's and they are definately strong enough to be used as sliders. I had the full weight of the truck on them pivoting around a rock as seen here on YouTube on my white '08 Taco about 1/2 way through (thanks to John & Mel for the video) :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MY8_0SJ9xCM

 

Not trying to bash you (allpro) but those gussets are pretty small and they are on only 2 legs, so by not having gussets on all 4 legs you can not say the they "are fully gusseted".

 

The gussets on the middle 2 legs have 3"L gussets, so they're not small. And the 2 outer legs now have gussets on them as well, but they are smaller due to spacial constraints.

 

From the second picture you post, it looks like the is no room for even a small gusset on the outer 2 legs. And about the 2 middle L gussets is that and L gusset is not nearly as strong as standard gusset is (triangle). So I guess what I should ask is: why would you make those gussets in a L shape, well knowing that they are not nearly asa strong as a standard gusset?

 

We've been selling rock sliders for nearly 15 years now with "boomerang" shaped gussets, we are talking thousands of sets, and our gussets have never failed.

 

I'm looking forward to getting a set of AllPros. I've been patiently waiting for the next batch. I will say, I do like the CBI product too. In fact I think they all pass the quality test and all look pretty good. I think it's a preference thing at this point. I like the clean look of the AllPro product.

RZ Rob

 

I would have to say Weld on. I got my SLiders from East Coast Gear SUpply.

 

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http://www.stubbswelding.com/rocksliders.htm

http://snipurl.com/1lpxsq

I want the RUbicons these thing look freakin indestructable

 

I would probably go with bolt on. Just because they can be easily replaced if they get "jacked up".
Both (depending on design) are equal in function.
Yes you can argue that drilling the holes may weaken the frame? But welding (heating) the frame will also weaken the frame. Either make it softer, or more brittle, depending on the cooling.

But either way? Both will be better than NO sliders. I really doubt anyone of us would drive like an "ass hat" and beat the crap out of the sliders. "thread lightly"

Good luck!

 

I just ordered the all-pro bolt ons, They have been around for years and sold many sets. So I trust the All-pro will do the job just fine. I have actually seen the all-pro bolt on sliders in action a few years ago. I saw 3 toyota 4 runners running bolt on All-pro's on a sierra trek run and they were holding up fine! Scratches in the paint, couple small nicks, but nothing bent, and better yet...no body damage!