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Question about advertising you have a gun

Discussion in 'Guns & Hunting' started by bradel88, Dec 26, 2011.

  1. Dec 28, 2011 at 1:13 PM
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    jpneely

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    but he was getting his ass beat by 3 dudes. i would think that would be considered seld defense?
     
  2. Dec 28, 2011 at 1:25 PM
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    Just for the record.

    1. He doesn't have a CW, but he is legally allowed to carry his gun where he lives.
    2. He was getting his ass beat due to him running up and trying to stop them from stealing his stuff. So since he 'approached them', he was found to be at fault. Since he 'approached' them, got into a fight, then killed on of them he got into lots of trouble.

    If they would have walked to him, he'd be off the hook. Since he came out basically 'looking' for a fight as they put it, it was his fault. Even tho they were ran-sacking his truck and taking his hard earned items, they were not in any way threatening his life enough for him to justify using a gun on them. Period- end of the story.

    They never caught the other two guys either. And I think this is WAY fucked up but that's how our judicial system is.

    I'm telling everyone right now, if you catch them breaking into your car, record them on video or take pic's and DO NOT APPROACH THEM! If they start walking to you, then blast away, but if you go after them you will get arrested.

    I'll be more than happy to get his story posted on here when he gets out in 2 years.
     
  3. Dec 28, 2011 at 1:28 PM
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    Some states, SC being one, have Castle Doctrines. Granted JL Audio stuff isn't worth taking a life over but in SC he would've been in the right to do what he did.
     
  4. Dec 28, 2011 at 3:27 PM
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    And I think what my buddy did was right. Someone was taking his stuff, he worked his ass off for, he's protecting his investment.
     
  5. Dec 28, 2011 at 3:43 PM
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    Like the poster who told the story said - He approached them so his friend caused the incident. Call the cops, yell to the scum that you have, take photos but don't try to chase them away....and certainly don't walk into a 3 on 1 and then try to claim self defense.
     
  6. Dec 28, 2011 at 7:24 PM
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    I'd agree partially...BUT...I like to tell people to call the cops, and DONT alert the subjects that you've done so because that makes our job that much harder

    If you hear/see it happening, call the cops, give them a good description, and try to NOT run them off...we're a LOT more likely to catch them, recover your shit, and stop them from breaking into someone else's shit if they aren't alerted to the police coming
     
  7. Dec 28, 2011 at 7:44 PM
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    I can dig that- but at some point gotta look out for mine. Don't want the truck getting any more damage when a simple "Hey assholes-I've already called the cops" will run them off.
     
  8. Dec 28, 2011 at 7:46 PM
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    understood

    I just like catching people in the act instead of going thru all the investigation channels
     
  9. Dec 29, 2011 at 3:39 AM
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    Well stated! I agree...

    Also agree with this ... anything I can do to help out the cops I'm for; I appreciate what ya'll do for us! :cool:

    If no one's told you lately, "THANK YOU!" :)
     
  10. Dec 29, 2011 at 3:58 AM
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    I don't know if I would go that far into carrying a locked container on me...

    By the time I need a gun I would be dead. Better off having friends that are LEO they carry all the time in public.
     
  11. Dec 29, 2011 at 10:52 AM
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    I need to address this...immediately...i dont know how i missed it prior

    Castle Doctrines have zilch to do with protection of property without threat of great bodily harm, or death etc

    http://www.sled.sc.gov/ProtectionOfPeople.aspx?MenuID=CWP
    Breaking the window of an unoccupied vehicle is not considered violent
     
  12. Dec 29, 2011 at 10:58 AM
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    Thanks-I've only got my phone or I would said something similar...but with out being able to quote/cite sources it woulda been useless.
     
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    Learn something every day, it was my understanding that the guy who was detained could have done what he did in SC legally due to the CD. :thumbsup:
    Off Topic: Have you seen this Tiger?
    http://www.tacomaworld.com/forum/south-east/194647-meet-greet-columbia-sc-jan-28-a.html
     
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    Trust in God but lock your doors. Try not to park in a sketch spot for too long.

    I wonder if a sticker of a hatchet or machete or a bee-hive might scare some fiends away?
     
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    Now if you were IN the car and someone was forcibly trying to get in, it could be taken as intent to commit a violent action (carjacking) correct?
     
  17. Dec 29, 2011 at 2:15 PM
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    do they have a weapon? say a bludgeon, knife, bat, gun?
     
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    (a) A person commits an offense if, in a manner intended to cause
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    (1) in or on any property, including a parking lot, parking garage,
    or other parking area, that is owned by a private or public school; or
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    (b) An offense under this section is a third degree felony.


    Only thing I could find that relates. It's weird I just so happened to be reading the regulations when I read your post because I'm about to apply for a CCL
     
  19. Jan 4, 2012 at 9:29 AM
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    That's what I thought the castle doctrine was about, but I could be wrong. If they enter or attempt to enter your car or house after being made aware people are inside, you can assume they intend to cause bodily harm and fire away.

    I think in the car breaking case , mentioned above, if the owner (who definitely got shafted by the system) had pulled his gun while remaining a good distance away, he would have been OK. After that, the thieves probably would have turned tail immediately, but if they then showed a gun or they advanced towards the owner, let the .45 slugs fly.
     
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    NO- You CAN NOT use a gun to protect property. Only to meet a threat to life. You can't brandish a gun to scare someone off (legally at least). That would be presenting a threat to someone else. The story sucks cause the guy was only trying to protect his shit- but he went about it all wrong.
     

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