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RAAMmat Video/Audio Before and After ( Sound Deaden the Roof )

Discussion in 'Audio & Video' started by acozzens, Feb 7, 2011.

  1. Feb 7, 2011 at 8:12 PM
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    acozzens

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    I was really happy to capture this footage for you because I think it really shows what sound deadening on the roof does for you.

    Having already silenced the front and rear doors and back wall, I had just enough RAAMmat to do the roof, and a foot left over to show some friends the product. Very glad I did it.

    The Video immediately shows before/after and then I show the product and quick peek during install.

    I sum it up saying that RAAMmat on the roof turns the heavy rain from a PING to a THUD.

    Check out my video and decide for yourself.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ya4GxjLaWVY?fs=1


    If you prefer to not see my cab, here is the audio only clip

    If you stumbled on this, I have another thread here showing how to actually remove the headliner so that you can apply the sound deadener :)


    Full Set of A Few Pics:

    A few Pics if you don't want to view the set:
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    RAAMmat Roof Install Booya Gagdet Car Audio 7 by BooyaGadget, on Flickr
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    RAAMmat Roof Install Booya Gagdet Car Audio 9 by BooyaGadget, on Flickr
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    RAAMmat Roof Install Booya Gagdet Car Audio 6 by BooyaGadget, on Flickr

    AC
     
  2. Feb 11, 2011 at 5:05 PM
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    Total self-bump violation.. But I was just really wondering what you all are thinking about this video...

    Everyone here already done this, or sold on it ?
     
  3. Feb 11, 2011 at 5:20 PM
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    No desire or intention to do it myself (not my skill set) but I've wondered a LOT about how well this stuff works. I'm not in the rainy NW so that's not a huge issue, but I don't like the level of wind and road noise. Have been curious if this stuff would reduce that to a better level.

    Love that you have the before/after audio available. Tells me it would probably make a difference in the cab noise level. Yet another thing to put on the wishlist . . .
     
  4. Feb 11, 2011 at 5:23 PM
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    Lauren, you warmed my heart with your feedback :)

    I wondered the same as you, then I got too curious and had to do it. Mostly I was scared about the headliner removal which wasn't too difficult.

    I like to hear perspective's like yours ( not that interested ) because I have some other buddies like that. Mostly, they don't want to upgrade their system. But you could improve what you have for cheap by using raammat behind your front 6x9's...

    Thanks.. .It actually was a fun and rewarding project.. I hope the vid/pics convince others to do it and then my theory is that they'll post back and say "I'm glad I did that, it works" :)

    later !
     
  5. Feb 11, 2011 at 5:27 PM
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    I did 1 sound deadener showdown tile per square on the roof then 1 full mat of 1/8" closed cell foam. Roof is totally quiet now. So half the stick dampner and whatever size 1 sheet of foam is from SDSD.
     
  6. Feb 11, 2011 at 5:31 PM
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    Thanks DevL,

    Would you say that you are "very friggin happy" that you did it and with the results, just like I would.

    Would you recommend the projects to others as "fairly easy" and "fairly cheap" ?

    FYI, I had to look up the "showdown" product.. if you're curious, it is a sound deadening purchase option: http://www.sounddeadenershowdown.com/cgi-bin/index.cgi
     
  7. Feb 11, 2011 at 5:34 PM
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    Yeah, I wondered about doing the doors and not the roof, to see if that made enough difference. I could probably do the doors, I don't know. Is this stuff adhesive-backed or do you buy separate adhesive for it?
     
  8. Feb 11, 2011 at 5:39 PM
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    Doing the roof isn't that hard, you just have to start at the floor and work to the top to get to it. Doors are an easy place to learn on.
     
  9. Feb 11, 2011 at 5:39 PM
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    Peel n stick.. I show the actual product and teaser install at the end of the video. Very easy to remove your door panels... Pop the bottom clips with a "safe pry tool" ( screwdriver with tape on it or similar ). Then the entire door panel wants to come off, but you have to pinch and unplug the Window Controls...

    Once the panel is off, you can Measure,Mark,Cut, Peel n Stick to the "inner wall" of your door, right behind your stock 6x9's. Do one door at a time, switch your Head Unit to LEFT/FRONT ( or whatever door you did ) and you can hear the difference yourself. All without installing anything. That Norah Jones album will really hit for you :)
     
  10. Feb 11, 2011 at 5:45 PM
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    lol Norah Jones.

    I'd crank something else. Merle Haggard, Blue Highway, maybe. No, Haggard, that's what I'm feeling right now . . . ;)
     
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    LMAO !!! I thought my Norah guess would be in the wheelhouse !

    Honestly, I love a lot of music, even NJ, and I don't judge what other's like anyways :)

    So blast that Haggard with some "sound deadening of your choice" and give me a virtual handshake when you see that it is "in your skillset" to improve your car audio...

    Cuz
     
  12. Feb 11, 2011 at 6:27 PM
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    Hey, Norah's not bad, just a little sedate for me.

    No worries - if I listed everything on the thumb drive I have plugged into my head unit right now, I would very quickly start looking like a gi-normous dork.

    Now, back to the thread you intended this to be. ;)
     
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    I easily spent $600 in materials deadening my truck. Added 100 pounds. Id say I am happy... I can tell a difference. It still is never going to hve the underlying things needed to be Mercedes quiet... our metal and glass is too thin, not enough seals on the doors for wind noise, chassis not rigid enough, etc.
    I wanted it to be as quiet with a lift and tires as it was stock... I dont have a lift and tires yet so I dont know how happy I am. It was a nighmare of a project... gutting my whole interior, doing sound deadener plus a sandwich of closed cell foam, mass loaded vinyl, and closed cell foam and recutting about 10 times per door so it fits... sealing off the holes in the door panels, putting foam and MLV on the floor, hainvg to buy , stronger new tabs to keep my doors skins from popping off.

    Sound deadening is not for the feint of heart. Its not financially worth it to most people. I, personally, am glad I did it. Its a noticable difference... rain does not ting the roof, I dont hear engine ticking anymore, and hopefully mud tires wont roar.
     
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    i think a major point is you don't necessarily have to go overboard with it to get results. it won't be as good as it can get, which i think is what you were aiming for, but you can pick your battles in terms of where to apply deadening and it won't be that challenging, weight that much, or cost too much. i prefer superlite, despite the complaints about cost. i used it in my mazda and though it to be fantastic. you truly don't need that much to make a real difference.

    i should be attacking my truck next.
     
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    subs for future mod
     
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    Yes, and the roof is the easiest and makes a big difference in rain... just not road/wind noise.

    Our floors have tons of vibration deadener factory installed already so I used very little... the whole foor is about a full days job. The foam is cheap. MLV is expensive but is what actually blocks road and engine noise. Half my weight and almost as much of my material costs went into the floor MLV and foam.

    Even the vibration dampner for doors is not expensive and pretty easy IMO.

    Its doing MLV on doors then getting the door panels to fit back on that is an absolout nightmare... espcially if you tried to seal off the large holes in the doors covered by the vapor barrier so you can get better performance from door mounted speakers. There just is not room for the door panels to fit back on once you have something covering those holes and a layer of material in between.This is where the road noise gets in as well.
     
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    Devl... this is why I got raammat...
    For me, #1 I wanted to learn how to do it all ( rip car apart )
    #2 I wanted to see the improvements.

    my thought here is that for non-competition audio enthusiasts, they just do not need to spend $600.. If I could do my related videos over I would really focus on that more. I don't remember my bundle cost for raammat ensolite but it was way way cheaper, and did my entire vehicle ( no floor )..

    Not clowning you, just want to make sure people know that I saw a tremendous difference, installed myself, and you will see a difference guaranteed. I believe it will certainly improve the sound of stock head unit.
     
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    How much raammat did you use for the doors and roof. I did this years ago on a car. The Tacoma is in real need of this job.

    Thanks for posting the vid that really helps.
     
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    The tutorial and matching videos are well done. I really like the idea, however, I've talked myself out of going through the effort.

    For one, I have a regular cab and not an extended cab, so maybe my roof isn't as loud simply because there's less of it?

    Second, on my way home from work today, it began to downpour (raining cats and dogs) while driving down the freeway, and it was LOUD! Having just watched the videos yesterday, I started thinking about how loud the rain was but noticed the noise wasn't coming from my roof, it was coming from my windshield, which makes sense. At 60 mph, rain isn't falling on the roof of your car much; you're plowing through it and therefore any vertical surfaces like the windshield are going to make noise. I could've put 100 lbs of MLV on the roof of my car and it wouldn't have made any difference unless perhaps I was sitting at a stop light.

    For true audiophiles, I'd say that it's worth the effort to sound deaden the roof, but for the rest of us who need a lot of bang-for-our-buck (and effort), I'm afraid I'll have to pass on this mod.
     
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    As soon as I bought my 2012, I gutted the entire interior to give it the full Rammat, Closed Cell Foam and MLV treatment to complement my sound system upgrade. Because I'd heard so many horror stories about fitting things back together, I opted to only use 1/8" layers of MLV and Closed Cell Foam. Based on what I've seen from other posts on this site, I'd say that I took the whole project about as far as practically possible (I even padded my wires behind the dash and put Rammat on the backside of the plastic wheel well liners).

    At the end of the day, I'd have to say that I'm pretty happy. I dreamed of achieving a Lexus sound stage, but it just isn't possible when you start with a Taco. That said... I can cruise down the freeway and have a conversation with someone in the backseat without needing to raise my voice or turn my head. I spend a lot of time on gravel roads and have gotten a lot of complements about the quietness of the vehicle.

    I think the real payback of a project like this is how much it improves the preformance of your sound system. If I hadn't done all the sound proofing, I'm convinced that the truck would rattle to pieces with my volume up.
     
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