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RCLT HD 2.75" - Travel Numbers and Notes

Discussion in 'Long Travel Suspension' started by Tacoma1192, Jul 13, 2022.

  1. Oct 13, 2022 at 9:36 AM
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    Robertocritser

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    Exactly. I need to lengthen my driver side links. My guess is it's going to be a mimal amount though.
     
  2. Oct 13, 2022 at 11:57 AM
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    I dont have a link or a part number, it was drop shipped from Howe as "M16 x 1.5 to -6AN high pressure fitting".
     
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  3. Oct 13, 2022 at 12:21 PM
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    Greater than 11” of travel at the wheels is what I’d consider long travel.
     
  4. Oct 13, 2022 at 4:14 PM
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    I’ll be measuring in a couple weeks. Will report back
     
  5. Oct 13, 2022 at 10:19 PM
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    What’s the point? You have a hard time understanding anything. I’m not going to waste my time explaining the difference. I’ll let you go back and actually read my posts. The info is there.
     
  6. Oct 13, 2022 at 11:29 PM
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    I did read your posts.
    I dont think you understand suspension or the kits on the market.

    You said you wouldnt rub with RCLT, can we agree on that? Or do i need to qoute it again?

    Then you said you cant fit 37s without rubbing.(this directly contradicts your previous statement)

    You also stated you didnt care about suspension travel numbers and that you only care about firewall clearance.

    You said it was an acheivement to run black bear on 37s without rubbing. What i think you meant was, its an achievement to run any trail on 37s without rubbing.

    You were impressed that a "99%" bolt on kit is able to run 37s without rubbing, regardless of suspension travel numbers. (This same kit requires fab work and welding, so does tubbing)

    But the marlin kit says you will have minor trimming on 35s with their provided bumpstops.
    So to fit 37s you either need to tub the inner fender, or go against manufacturer installation instructions and use a different bump stop style to limit travel. Which the OP did and got called out by Big Mike for.

    Whats the point of this? To reduce the amount of misinformation spread by people that dont know what their doing or talking about.

    If you actually cared about the shit you post online(that will be on here for years and will be read by many more people), you would want to make sure you post accurate information, so you dont spread even more misinformation. What you say may lead someone to purchase the RCLT kit expecting to fit 37s without rubbing. But you fail to mention the limited travel and kit modifications to achieve that.
     
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  7. Oct 14, 2022 at 6:25 AM
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    Assuming most of the owner responses are in regards to the 2.75" kit. Anybody pull actual travel numbers on 3.5" kit? Fully prepared and understand the need to clearance (intend to run 37's) and modify bump stop mounts (add air bumps).
     
  8. Oct 14, 2022 at 6:35 AM
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    I think @Tac05 is? Correct me if I'm wrong.
    Looks like hes squeezing every bit of travel out of it with air bumps, fully tubbed for 37s, Ori shocks (much shorter compressed length than coilovers) etc.
     
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  9. Oct 14, 2022 at 7:09 AM
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    Which are you comparing to? I think King 2.0 have the same numbers or slightly better
     
  10. Oct 14, 2022 at 10:23 AM
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    Okay. Let me see if I can make this easier for you. I’ll try to keep the sentences really short. Feel free to quote any of my other posts as well. But please include the entire thing for context, unlike the partial sentences you’ve quoted so far.

    Most LT kits (I can speak specifically to dirt king since that’s what I have) will rub the firewall with 37’s. Mine rubs with barely any compression.

    The RCLT kit moves the tire forward something like 2-3 inches? This will alleviate the problem I described above which would allow navigating black bear which isn’t an extreme trail.

    Now here is part I would like you read slowly. Maybe even more than once since you are struggling here.

    The RCLT does not provide full travel with 37’s without rubbing. Let me say that again, try not to struggle…the RCLT does not provide full travel on 37’s without rubbing. I never said once it did. Please quote my entire post where I said that and I will edit.

    All I said is it was impressive that you could do black bear pass with 37’s and a LT kit. Again…it’s not an extreme trail that doesn’t require full travel. It only requires full steering at mild compression. In case you missed this mild compression does not equal full travel.

    Now as for your stock truck that can run 37’s without rubbing or trimming or whatever your claim was, I don’t care, good for you. That doesn’t apply to my comment.
     
  11. Oct 14, 2022 at 11:43 AM
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    We did the CTI test with the 2.75" kit and although I wasnt able to fully flex or stuff the rear (springs way way too stiff) we got a score of 880, which was a tad higher than BigMike got running the 3.5" kit. I have since removed 2 leaves from the rear and added some weight (bed drawers) but still cant flex the rear springs out. Have been day dreaming about running some links.
     
  12. Oct 14, 2022 at 11:52 AM
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    King collapsed length is 15" and ORIs are 15.825" which is a big difference. Another factor to consider is the thickness of the top hat between the top of the shock and the bottom of the coil bucket mount. I believe a .25" difference there equates to 1" of lift. Is that right?
     
  13. Oct 14, 2022 at 12:17 PM
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    Hmm, I'm not sure exactly, I think it's 1:2 there.
     
  14. Oct 14, 2022 at 12:19 PM
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    Here you stated that 37s require no tubbing, no mention of limited uptravel.

    Again no mention of limited uptravel.

    Here you finally adress the uptravel issue, but you say its not an issue.
    But if we arent worried about travel numbers, why not just do a 8 inch drop bracket kit? Itll clear 37s better than RCLT.

    You also state its an achievement, i dont see how that is an achivement at all. I can do black bear in a slightly modified truck, or subaru.

    Then you says its not an achivement. ( Directly contradicting your previous statement)

    Then you said you wouldnt rub with RCLT and 37s, you didnt say anything about limited travel or not rubbing specific locations.
    2 sentences later you said you wont rub without tubbing. (This contradicts your previous statement)

    Finally you put out some good information on the capabilities of this kit.
    The kit pushes the wheels forward 2 inches, not 3.

    Please elaborate on what you mean by "full steering" as this kit uses less steering than a typical LT kit, like dirt king.

    I never said i did not rub on 37s, i said i did rub.
    I said i could get ut to not rub by limiting uptravel.
    Firewall clearance was taken care of by a cab mount relocate and a 12lb sledge AND limiting uptravel.
     
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  15. Oct 14, 2022 at 12:22 PM
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    I think we can all agree that Marlin once again over promised and under delivered which doesnt go well with extreme price tags. I think we can all agree that is a cool concept but still remains somewhat of a concept.
     
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  16. Oct 14, 2022 at 12:29 PM
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    Sherpa stated that thier uptravel was also limited because the kits lower arm contacted frame.
    Is this true with your kit aswell? Do you have shock shaft exposed at full bump?

    OP also stated the uptravel is limited by outer tie rod end.
     
  17. Oct 14, 2022 at 12:31 PM
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    That makes more sense.
     
  18. Oct 14, 2022 at 12:36 PM
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    Okay. You are still missing my point.

    You need to understand my comment had to keep adding clarifications because you were having such a hard time grasping this simple concept.

    I’ll try one more time. I’m on mobile so I’m going to do an elaborate post like you did. I’ll only comment on my first comment you have quotes since that’s where you went off the rails.

    Here’s your issue.


    Edit. I messed this post up somehow. Let me get to laptop and address the confusion.
     
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  19. Oct 14, 2022 at 12:40 PM
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    I limited up travel because I didnt feel like removing my headlights.
     
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    I dont really care if its black bear pass or some other forest service road.
    You will either have to limit uptravel or tub to fit 37s on any LT kit. You did not adress that and gave the impression i could bolt on 37s and RCLT and get full travel.
    If someone is spending $12k on a LONG TRAVEL kit, they should be informed of what it takes to achive the travel numbers stated by the manufacterer.
    If your gonna bump stop uptravel to fit big tires, you need to be clear on that.

    Again , Please elaborate on what you mean by "full steering" as this kit uses less steering than a typical LT kit, like dirt king.
     

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