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Replacing AT20's finally!! What did you put on your Sport? Need advice

Discussion in 'Wheels & Tires' started by YoterHead, Mar 4, 2010.

  1. Mar 4, 2010 at 7:17 PM
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    YoterHead

    YoterHead [OP] Well-Known Member

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    OK, stock AT20's on my sport rims are at 46000 miles. They probably still have 10k or so left, but I'm about ready for new shoes. Going to up a size to 265/70/R17, or 265/75/R16 if I can find 16" wheels for cheap. It sucks that 17" tires are more expensive.

    I'm looking for some advice not only on what tire, but AT vs HT. I'm a little budget conscious on these tires, hopefully less than $150 per tire. I want something that will last at least 50,000 miles, but the longer the better.

    As for AT vs HT, I do most of my driving on pavement, but I don't want a worthless tire for when I do go offroad. I wouldn't mind an AT tire, but a straight HT might be off limits. Also looking to avoid a squishy tire. I don't want to be bouncing down the highway :)

    It'd be nice to have a snowflake rated tire, but not necessary.

    I'd love to be able to go out and buy BFG's or Duratracs, but they're a little of of budget unless I get them on a good sale. I'm open ears to suggestions.

    I'd like to hear from other Sport owners who upped to 265/70/R17 and their experience with their tires. Thanks for the help!

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  2. Mar 4, 2010 at 8:47 PM
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    Krazie Sj

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    Michelin LTX M/S or ATX. They're kinda pricey too, but worth their weight in gold for pavement driving.

    Otherwise the BFG Longtrails are an excellent HT tire as well. Essentially BFGs answer the the LTX.
     
  3. Mar 4, 2010 at 9:05 PM
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    x2... Put 265/70/17 AT/2's on mine a couple months ago, love them. Paid 170 each
     
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    I should also mention the AT/2's look alot more fierce in person if that makes any sense. They aren't aggressive like the BFG A/Ts or the Dura Tracs, but they look porcupine. Cute, but they'll fuck you up if you mess with them.
     
  5. Mar 5, 2010 at 6:30 AM
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    Gotta say, any tire with "Michelin" in the name is too pricey. I had some LTX MS on a previous truck, they were nice, but not worth the money for the name.

    I'm sort of leaning towards TOYO Open Country A/T, Firestone Destination AT, or General Grabber A/T. All of them have treadware warranties of 50,000 in P-metric. I think the General has 60,000. Not bad for A/T tires?

    I wouldn't be opposed to AT/2's if they weren't so pricey. Also sort of like the Cooper Zeon's, but they're more expensive than I thought they'd be.
     
  6. Mar 5, 2010 at 6:45 AM
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    I have Firestone Destination A/T's. And I am tickled to death with them.
     
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    General Grabbers are out. Just found out they weigh 44.5 lbs compared to 39 on the TOYOs and 40 on the Firestones. Don't need that much weight bogging down my gas mileage.

    So right now, Toyo Open Country AT vs. Firestone Destination AT.

    Anyone have any other similar tires to add in while trying to keep the cost down?

    Note: Nitto Terra Grapplers are not an option. Same as Toyo AT with a softer rubber for more grip. I'd rather have a little extra life on the tire and pay couple of dollars more. Plus I don't like the whole lightning bolt thing the Nitto's have going on the sidewall. Yuck.
     
  8. Mar 5, 2010 at 10:07 AM
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    Spend the extra money on the bfg at's you won't regret it.
     
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    I put a set of Bridgestone Dueler AT's on mine. Very happy with them.

    I wanted the BFG AT's, and have had them on 2 other vehicles in the past, just coudln't put the coin together for them this time when I needed tires.
     
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    I've heard BFG's don't do well on ice or in wet conditions. I don't think I'll take my truck over any rock trails any time soon, so the tougher sidewalls don't mean much. If I was more of an offroader I would go for them, but I drive too much highway for it to make sense. My driving is mostly highway (40 miles a day for work) with moderate offroading (no mud if I can avoid, same with rocks, mostly dirt/grass, some sand).
     
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    If you want a decent tire that's great offroad and ok on some trails, take a look at the goodyear silent armor's. Those are supposed to be a great tire for the price and cheaper than the bfg a/t's.
     
  12. Mar 5, 2010 at 11:00 AM
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    Sounds like General Grabber HTS might be great for you. They have awesome reviews (especially for snow.) You said Generals were out of the question due to weight but I'm guessing to were talking about the AT2's? HTS aren't very heavy.
     
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    ^^ The SilentArmors are still a little pricey for me.

    ^ I've looked at the Grabber HTS before. They seem like a great buy for a highway tire. If I do decide on a HT then I think that's the tire. I'm just struggling with the fact that a HT might make the most sense for me. I hate the way the AT20s look on my truck and was hoping to get something a little more truck like.
     
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    I think somewhat might have mentioned this but you can buy the Duratracs on ebay and then get 8% cash back. Discounttire has an ebay store so you can get their low price plus 8% cash back through Bing.

    This is the route I just went. Plus I am also going to do the treadlightly.org deal for another $75 discount.

    That makes my

    265/70/17s 4 @$207 $828
    Less 8% cash back ($66)
    Less Treadlightly rebate ($75)
    Total $171.75 a tire $687

    I got to think that is the best way to go right now.
     
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  15. Mar 5, 2010 at 2:36 PM
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    I personally think the stock dunlops are great tires. i had 265/65/17s on my 4runner and they were great tires.. super quiet, great grip wet and dry. I even had them in a couple feet of snow, as well as out in the sand in florida a bunch of times and was totally happy with them. i think they're better than the stock bridgestone duelers, which i have on my truck now.. i'd rate them the same for noise, wet, and dry, but definetely not as good in snow.
    I think everybody likes to dis OE stuff for some reason. maybe an excuse to buy new stuff?
    I had mine on my 4 runner for 45k miles before i changed them, and like you said, could have gone another 10k easy. i replaced them with identical tires too.
    Just been my perception that people always try to convince themselves and others that OE stuff is shit so they can have an excuse to go buy new aftermarket, and usually do more harm than good. Look at all the intakes and exhausts that people put on that have proven little to no dyno improvements and often losses.... i dont get it. Believe it or not, toyota puts a lot of time, effort, and engineering into these trucks to make them as good as they reasonably could.
    I think the dunlops are great for a highway vehicle that sees some offroad every now and again, which is what category most of us fall into.
     

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