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Revised ACFT

Discussion in 'Military' started by Tw85, Mar 24, 2022.

  1. Mar 24, 2022 at 7:31 PM
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    Tw85

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    New information on the Army Combat Fitness Test was released on Wednesday, and I received my leaders training today on the implementation plan. The biggest change was removal of the leg tuck, which was replaced by the plank. They also added a new scoring scale that takes gender and age into account. Diagnostic test start again in April, and official testing begins in October for record. There are plenty of news articles out there about this, so information is not hard to find. Standing by for the comments and opinions :crapstorm:
     
  2. Mar 28, 2022 at 11:12 AM
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    It took the Army five years (?) to develop a gender neutral MOS specific physical fitness test that made sense and then politicians turned it into another useless waste of time.
     
  3. Mar 28, 2022 at 11:22 AM
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    What was the reasoning behind getting rid of the leg tuck?
     
  4. Mar 28, 2022 at 11:24 AM
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    My opinion, it wasn't gender or age friendly.
     
  5. Mar 28, 2022 at 11:26 AM
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    The minimum was 1… if you can’t do a half a pull up/half a lower body sit-up, then what are you doing in the army. I’m not the fittest person and I was maxing that part. I couldn’t believe last week how many smiling faces I saw when they got rid of the leg tuck.
     
  6. Mar 28, 2022 at 11:31 AM
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    If you can't do one then you need to get out. I'm a fat lazy piece of shit compared to my younger enlisted self and can still do the leg tucks without difficulty and I don't even go to the gym anymore.
     
  7. Mar 28, 2022 at 12:49 PM
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    After watching so many Soldiers fail the leg tuck, and seeing the overall test results from the DoD, I am not surprised they changed the test.
    And because I am not politically correct, I'm sure a lot of female Soldiers are very much happy with this change.
     
  8. Mar 28, 2022 at 6:05 PM
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    I am not happy about the changes, because the Army gave us plenty of time to train and prepare. The changes happened because of current senior leadership, and the high number of failures we would have had if the standard did not change. I thought the alternate plank event was fine, if anything they should’ve let us pick between the plank and leg tuck and provide a plank grading scale that stil allows max points.
     
  9. Mar 28, 2022 at 6:10 PM
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    Fuck it ill chime in.
    The leg tuck has nothing to do with core.
    It's hell on someone with a shoulder injury.
    The army should be doing pull ups as a standard anyways and not for specific duty.
    The plank is harder than the leg tuck.
     
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    Whoa whoa. You mentioned genders here you sexist. I'm offended and am reporting you to the hurt feelings police.
























    Kidding!

    But in all seriousness, screw the ACFT.
     
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    Honestly I think they should have just kept the APFT and created a pass/fail for the ACFT centered around functional tasks. The marines do it right with rifle marksmanship, uniforms, and having a PT test and separate combat fitness test.
     
  12. Apr 7, 2022 at 1:00 PM
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    Back in the ancient days, it was just called PT test, and it consisted of only 3 things:
    • Time to run 2 miles
    • Number of situps in 2 minutes
    • Number of pushups in 2 minutes

    There were different standards for males and females, and also for age groups (eg: 18-21, 22-25, 26-30,.....)

    Of course I served in pure peace time, so there wasn't the same hyper focus on combat readiness as there has been for the last 30+ years.
     
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    Yeah....I don't buy this. Sorry. I have seen PLENTY of female soldiers crush the LTK.
     
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    Ya, okay, now look at the DoD's stats...
     
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    Plain and simple, there should be one basic standard. Regardless of age or gender, have to meet the standard. If you can't and remedial doesn't fix the issue, you're gone.
     
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    Yes!
     
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    facts my dude, and don't forget those soldats with P2s. I am so glad I don't have to deal with this stupid shit anymore lol.
     
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    The PT tests for all services is a joke. Look at how many fat bodies wander around and hang out at the exchange all day eating donuts and candy bars. Even in my time it was the same. Thankfully I wasn't a "regular" in my NEC classification.
    Good luck fat bodies they'll help you pass.
     
  19. Apr 25, 2022 at 4:05 PM
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    Yeah. Army had to reverse “all are equal” stance and make it more “fair”. It’s a lousy evaluation of physical readiness, but I think we can’t ignore the 100’s of millions spent on development and equipment at this point. Hell, I just wish new Soldiers coming from BCT were physically fit and could pass PT/ACFT.
     
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    go woke, get broke...
     
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