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Revtek 3" / 1.5" AAL Lift Kit

Discussion in 'Suspension' started by BlkTaco47, Nov 2, 2016.

  1. Mar 28, 2017 at 6:54 PM
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    smitty99

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    This video will answer your question specifically

    https://youtu.be/BOvoM5irtEc
     
  2. Mar 28, 2017 at 9:32 PM
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    The overload is the last leaf spring in your stock leaf spring pack.

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    This is to help prevent your rear from sagging even more when towing heavy shit. Depending on your application you might either leave or remove the overload when adding an AAL.

    My progressive Icon AAL said to remove it since it's more than just a single leaf.
     
  3. Mar 29, 2017 at 10:14 AM
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    Thank you for clarifying that. Is this a picture of your 2017? Was this after install?

    I only have 3 leafs and then the overload, I count 4 in your photo.
     
  4. Mar 29, 2017 at 10:20 AM
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    Have heard leaving the overload leaf in can add difficulty to the installation when using a 3-leaf progressive AAL as made by Deaver (Icon, Wheelers, Headstrong, etc.) all carry the same one to my knowledge and just stamp their "name" on them"

    One guy said if you want to keep the Overload in he thinks you'd have to grind out the carrier brackets which would be a major bitch. Not sure on this however, as I didn't look into it....I left the overload out on my leaf pack as I wanted to maintain a softer ride. Leaving overload in will give maybe an added .5" in height--if so with a 1.5" 3-leaf AAL plus the Factory O/L you'd be at 2" rear lift. Then you'd have to max out the 6112s up front to get 2" out of them for a factory rake or look at other front options for lift.
     
  5. Mar 29, 2017 at 10:48 AM
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    That was from a generic photo I found.

    This is from my truck [​IMG]

    and after, you can see the overload on the ground
    [​IMG]
     
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  6. Mar 29, 2017 at 10:50 AM
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    Cinder block "jack stands" not OSHA approved... .:rofl:

    Didn't get all of your response to my quote by the way...only an "S"
     
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  7. Mar 29, 2017 at 10:53 AM
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    Hah yeah, what's not shown is the fork lift holding the back up as well...definitely a little more stable than just cinder blocks but not OSHA approved.

    I was trying to quote your post saying that it would be a tight fit with that overload on and that it would ride like crap. The icon's are digressive anyway so they handle better with a load than compared to fox/kings.
     
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  8. Mar 29, 2017 at 10:57 AM
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    FWIW the 3 leaf AAL rides really nice at 1.5" of lift. I wouldn't change a thing. It honestly is better than stock off road. It feels slightly firmer on road (not as floaty/plush) but the 5160s, the AAL and the 6112s up front just really neutralize the washboard roads, potholes and help to make the vehicle feel more planted and in-control when off road. Cornering is better too, not as "boaty" I am really impressed with this combo so far as suspension goes. It truly is an upgrade over the TRD OR suspension. I don't haul or tow much but if/when I need to then I will probably look at an airbag option (something I can use as needed to firm up the rear only when I need it firm). I was very concerned and critical of hurting the plush and supple ride of the TRD OR but I have to say I'm happy with this as a performance enhancement for the rough roads I have to traverse regularly on weekends. I didn't do it for the looks. It is a very mild lift, but it looks good too IMO.
     
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  9. Mar 29, 2017 at 11:09 AM
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    Honestly, my Icons felt way too firm compared to the stock OR when I got them. My truck feels like a TRD Sport on the road but I think they're still breaking in and I feel less bumps (or I'm getting used to them) now and it corners 100x better than before and the bumps/dips I've been over are absorbed so well. Great dampening compared to the OR shocks. I haven't gone on a trail yet but going on some rough roads I know they already do much better than stock OR shocks.

    I was going to go with the 6112/5160 combo at first but I wound up with the Icons because they're easier to have rebuilt and revalved to spec later on and also because I can achieve a higher lift than 6112s later on once I get my UCAs.
     
  10. Mar 29, 2017 at 11:12 AM
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    When you say Icons being too firm you're referring to the shocks/coils or the rear leafs? I have the rear 3 leaf AAL from wheelers (which is same as Icon--all made by Deaver) and I feel there is VERY little difference in "stiffness" in the rear. I have 6112/5160 combo and it rides like butter off-road. However do need to replace needle bearing with ECGS bushing now because I'm getting the vibrations in the floorboard up front which go away in 4wd....definitely matches the symptoms for bad needle bearing. So something to seriously consider if contemplating any type of lift. Once again my lift is only at 1.5" --going higher than this and using another brand of shocks, etc is probably not a good comparison for my combo as far as how it would impact the "feel" of ride.
     
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    Both. But honestly I have no idea/way to tell if it's from the progressive leaf or the rear shock. I've only had my lift on for less than a week/50 miles so I'm sure it's still settling in. It's definitely softer from day 1.
     
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    Very nice. So that is what adding the Icon progressive 3 leaf additions to the 3 factory and taking out the overload looks like?

    Hope you put some tall Icon front shocks to even out that rake from all those leafs!
     
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    My 6112/5160 and wheelers 3-leaf AAL (without overload) felt great from the moment I put the lift on. Immediately took to Firestone and bought the lifetime alignment for $179.99. I can't tell that the ride has softened much. I took it out and beat up on it a bit the other day then ran it back to firestone for a second alignment and numbers were changed just in those few days. That lifetime alignment is going to get its money's worth. I should mention I also did the all pro ubolt flip and wheelers super bumps-- not that this would have any impact on "on-road pavement" characteristics.
     
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    My suspension has also been super comfortable since day one as well with some settling
     
  15. Mar 29, 2017 at 11:23 AM
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    6112s for 3rd gen set at 5th notch on driver side, 4th notch on pax side (bilstein chart says this will give 1.56" of lift on this trim/config of Tacoma)
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    Expect the front will settle just a tad maybe 1/2" over the next month / 1000 miles or so based on others' feedback who are running this setup
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  16. Mar 29, 2017 at 11:26 AM
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    I got the-

    Why would adding 1 leaf give you 2 inches and adding a 3 leaf progressive kit only giver you 1.5" of lift? Is the 3 leaf progressive pack not as curved?
     
  17. Mar 29, 2017 at 11:27 AM
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    That one leaf is super firm and thick. That's how they get 2" out of one leaf. It is going to ride much stiffer than stock. A progressive pack is better for a softer ride.

    If I were you and you want to maintain a closer-to-stock ride but with lift I'd look into a new leaf pack like this: Look at the price difference. Often times it is true, you get what you pay for, and in this case it seems to be very true...that single leaf 2" lift is not what I'd go with. To each their own.
     
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    Of course, now I feel like an idiot. I have the same 6112's set at 5th notch, I like them. Was hoping to get closer to 3 inches out of them.

    I think I might return the big ass stiff leafs for the set you got. I have the 5100 Bilstein in the rear but it should be fine. The 5160's look nice.

    Thank you for the infomation smitty!
     
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  19. Mar 29, 2017 at 12:00 PM
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    For $80 you might roll with the 2" leaf (deal with it) until you save up the cash for something better. Return shipping probably cost half that alone if not more.

    However if you're paying to have it installed I'd probably do it right the first time. Paying labor is a bitch.
     
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    Yeah or try to sell them locally. That would suck if I had to pay for install. Can you measure the distance between the bottom of your tire to the top of the fenderwell? I left my shocks threaded where they came from the factory (recommended) but no one can tell me so far exactly how much lift that's supposed to generate. I saw a thread where someone said it was 2" on the 2nd gens but no idea for 3rd gens.

    My lift on stock tires looks similar to yours, but hard to see the fenderwell gap exactly on your pic.
     

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