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roll bar?

Discussion in '1st Gen. Tacomas (1995-2004)' started by quackhead03, Jun 2, 2010.

  1. Jun 2, 2010 at 9:49 PM
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    anybody know where i can get a rollcage for the bed of my truck for an 03 tacoma? and prices if known?
     
  2. Jun 2, 2010 at 9:50 PM
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    like an actual bed cage?
    or a roll bar?
     
  3. Jun 2, 2010 at 11:01 PM
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    For looks or function?

    For function, no clue, but I think you're talking about something that will end up being custom made to completely reinforce your cab. Not going to be cheap.

    For looks (light bar mounted in the bed), there's a few out there, but your best bet is really to find a used one. New ones seem to start at around $500 and go up depending on amount of loops and kickbacks.

    Then there's the much cheaper light bars that just mount on the bed sides. They can be had for pretty cheap new, but dont look nearly as good as the ones mounted in the bed.
     
  4. Jun 3, 2010 at 4:58 AM
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    Lets clear something up here....

    Rollcage = a very strong cage that's built around the occupant or vehicle to protect a person and the vehicle in a roll-over accident situation.

    Rollbar = a round tube setup that you attach to your bed for mounting lights or just for looks. Offers NO protection.
     
  5. Jun 3, 2010 at 5:32 AM
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    I think a 'roll bar' can be made to provide a level of protection. if it were mounted solidly to the frame and have sufficient strength to support the trucks weight in a roll it would most definitely reduce the amount of damage tot he cab.
    no idea where to get one though.
     
  6. Jun 3, 2010 at 6:52 AM
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    You can make a ROLL CAGE look like a roll bar..........but if it was built for the intended purposes of protection during a rollover, it DAMN WELL be built full strength with proper tubing, proper mounting, and strong enough. That's called a ROLL CAGE.

    Anything less than that ....and you expect it to protect you? A waste of money and I wouldn't want to trust my life on something that's done half assed.

    NO - you should not build a roll bar that offers 'a level' of protection. It's ALL OR NOTHING in terms of protecting yourself in a rollover. There's a big difference between protecting the cab/occupants of the vehicle versus protecting your paint job.
     
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  8. Jun 3, 2010 at 7:19 AM
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    its all about levels of protection. yes a full crash cage is significantly stronger then a well made roll bar. but if you go over a 100 foot cliff its no likely to make a difference. it will if you say go for a 100 foot roll down a hill. the real question is how hard are you going to wheel. if you will ever get into a spot where you could go for a long tumble for sure go for a full cage. otherwise if your like me and might at most tumble onto your roof (god forbid) go for a well made Roll BAR it will minimize damage to your truck! and could save your life.
    hey Janster,
    do you have a cage in your truck?
     
  9. Jun 3, 2010 at 7:30 AM
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    Janster's Tacoma isn't caged but she's wheeled harder and for more years than most anybody on this site. Came from Jeeps, knows her builds, and knows how to push a vehicle and her own skills.

    If you're putting in the time, effort, and expense of building a roll bar or cage for safety, do it right. Make it as strong as you can given the space and weight constraints you have to work with. Proper cross bracing is required. Tying the tubes to the frame is a must. Using the proper materials with adequate tube diameter and wall thickness is a must. Mandrel bends.

    A poorly made cage can cause far more harm than good. Do it right.
     
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    Where are you located?
     
  11. Jun 3, 2010 at 7:41 AM
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    true, a poorly made Bar (or cage for that matter) could give you a false sense of security. but if one drives their 'rig' every day on the road and only wheels on the odd day off they likely have no want for a cab filled with tubing. not to mention the work and expense of installing it or having it installed. i still see nothing wrong with having a well made roll-bar. just know its limitations.

    bottom line in my books:
    more protection is better and a roll bar is more then stock. so that to me can do nothing but help.
     
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    It's not the false sense of security that's the issue. It's poorly installed and/or inadequate metal tubes that can break free, tear, bend, etc. in the event of a tip, rollover, or crash that can trap people in a vehicle and impale passengers.

    The stock truck is designed with areas of strength surrounded by crumple zones for safety. If you're going to mess with the factory design, you need to make sure you're doing it properly or you could kill someone.

    A simple example of the concept is the goofy brush guards that people put around taillights. When driving on trails those things hook branches and crack the very taillights they're supposed to protect, often mangling the mounts in the process. If they weren't there, the branches would just slide down the smooth side of the truck without damaging anything.

    If you're going to add something to your truck, especially for protection, make sure it'll actually protect you and not put you in more risk than you'd be if the add-on wasn't there.
     
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    I agree that if one were to use inadequate materials, design or insulation process the passengers may be in fact be less safe the on a stock unit. that being said if one adds more strength in key areas such as at the roof line; even if it is outside of the cab, there can be significant gains in safety made.
     
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    but dont listen mike all he has is scaffolding and a painted grill :p
     
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    who's mike?
     
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    Call S&W at 1-800-523-3353 x116. They are the best. They will custom make an 8-point bar or a 10-point cage for any truck. Prices are very reasonable. Tell them Brian told you to call.
     
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    :wave:

    I'm caged with .120 wall 2" chromoly all around, tied directly into the frame and A-pillars, properly triangulated and gusseted at all intersections.

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  18. Jun 3, 2010 at 12:24 PM
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    I just thought I'd throw in my 2 cents.

    Last April 15th my roommate got in a gnarly rollover crash in a Mitsubishi Eclipse on a ridge slamming into a guardrail at 110 mph. The guardrail's wooden posts gave way immediately and acted as a ramp that flung them into the air about 40ish feet down and 200ish feet forward (110mph is pretty fast). The car rolled in the air about 3-4 times and landed UPSIDE DOWN in a giant pile of Pea Gravel (we were being stupid and street racing right next to an asphalt manufacturing company).

    They walked away from the crash with minor concussions, a messed up ankle, and several scratches and are almost completely healed to this day.

    They are alive for a few reasons: Most importantly the pile of Pea Gravel that cushioned their fall, a set of Sparco Pro 2000 Racing seats with 4 point harnesses, and a crude rollBAR just barely covering their heads.

    Seriously, not even a full cage, but just a single bar behind the seats in the cab that was also used to secure the racing harness.

    Since I probably will get a "worthless without pics" banner, here ya go, TW:

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    I'm not sure, but I think the roll bar was made of the same metal as the harness mount bar...not quite sure:

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    So I'm thinkin I want a roll bar in my truck.

    EDIT: God Mike you have a nice truck...
     
  19. Jun 3, 2010 at 12:29 PM
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    Yeow! Bummer you needed it but freaking wonderful that it worked!

    What material was the rollbar made of and what size tubing? The Eclipse is a unibody, right? How'd you guys attach it to the car and did you have any bracing to keep it upright?
     
  20. Jun 3, 2010 at 12:29 PM
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    im selling my light/roll bar. In no way is it for protection. Just lights and looks.

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