SAS Quick Guide & Cost...

Yep!

Thanks!

 

Supra, got any info on linking a taco? You know of a good link calculator or something I could find some good info on? Im trying to research links but dont know where to start. I believe Im going to link the truck the very first time. Granted, it will be a very long time and I will be saving up money and parts over many years as well as researching. I would like to do it a couple years after I get out of college. Im a junior in HS. My dream plan is to run tons and 40s and have it sitting relatively low like mossyrocks runner.

 

awesome write up thank you for taking the time to do this

i'm considering doing this to mine in a couple of years but, it would still be my daily driver. if i do take the plunge and go for a sas with all new stuff how is reliability? is this going to be something thats going to be broken like everyday or is it a reliable set up if done properly?

i understand this is a simple question but, since your one of the few guy's on tw and you seem to have a bunch of knowledge and first hand experience on the subject.

 

if you do it right and use quality parts it can be used as a DD with few limitations


since my SAS ive only broken 1 thing on the highway and that was due to a defective part

 

Well its mainly calculated when you set up the axle.. links can be done SO many different ways, I have no real way of telling you a specific way to do it.

As fire said, yes it will and can be reliable, but the more reliable you want it, the more it will cost. I DD mine for like 4 months and would have continued if I didn't buy a new truck. It wont be like IFS though, it'll be it's own.

 

no cap lights on a gas job...man wtf?

 

i think he may have been criticizing your cab lights being on a gas powered vehicle

 

I love my lights lol. Orange lights ftw! Hence my 61 LED turn signals.

 

sooooooooooo..... what your saying is i can do this for 2500- to 3000$?





jk

 

yup send me a pic of your truck and 2500 and ill send you back a pic of it SASd

 

U IZNT KIDING DAWG. U CAN HAZ SAS 4 1,500$

 

Exactly.

I try to get as much triangulation as possible and then it's just a matter of what fits. There are a few "rules of thumb" to keep the thing driveable, like keeping the lower links as flat and as long as possible.

One more thing, you will probably need to cut out the stock t-case crossmember to get it to clear the front driveshaft, so now is the time to do a dual case or a "lefty". And set the lower link length as close to the front driveshaft length at this point for minimal compression of the shaft.

All that being said, as easy as it is to do a link setup, I would never use leafs up front again.

 

Suspension Encyclopedia a must read for anyone looking at a SAS.

http://hstrial-4wheelundergr.intuitwebsites.com/Suspension-411.html

 

Great info n0rth.

 

Thanks, it was posted on RST and really helped me out with trying to understand the inputs for the link calculator. Great thread you have put together, there is so much to these swaps that people just don't get beyond the cost alone.

 

And that's what irritates the shit out of me. Because I was that person before.

 

I WOULD BE HAPPY TO SHOW U A CHEAPER WAY. THAT IS VERY EFFECIENT AND RELIABLE. you dont ALWAYS have to buy the BEST parts right out of the gate.

this is the first time i did my sas tacoma back in 07


wagoneer dana 44 w/flat top knuckles $250
94 toyota rear leafs $100 i ran the mounting leaf and over load with 3 of my tacoma leafs from my rear! put them up front.
ford F250 shock mounts $23 each from dealer
IFS steering box $75
steering shaft to column $200 bentup.com
pro comp 14" ES3000 shocks $124 all 4 4wheel parts
firewall plate allpro $65
driveline flange to from 44 to toyota $90
trail gear front hanger $50
tube bungs from trailgear and jigs $45
stock shackles from a rear toyota $20 craigslist.
dana 44 to toyota brake lines $$$$ i had mine made pretty sure it was under $100

rear chevy 63's $100
i made my own shackles
mounts for the 63's $45
rear driveline $250.
stainless brake lines $80

throw out a few hundered for bushings and some metal for bracking and plating of the frame.

thats under $2000 and i wheeled the shit out of my truck broke a few u joints and hubs. but my truck was done it wheeled great and i built it over time.

sence then i've gone threw many axles and setups.

if i had to do it again all over as it was my first build.

i would go with toyota axle get rid of the shitty chain driven tcase and do the v6 adapter to 4cyl gear case. so it was passenger side drop

FINISH PRODUCT WHEN I FIRST DID THIS






to each his own when they do this...if u have atleast a small idea of fabrication its really not that hard to tackle. look at pirate4x4.com for really good info and set ups.

there really is no need to spend $10k on something if u are going to drop that much then do research on what kinda of direction u want to go...im rebuilding my truck for he 5 and final time cause i'll sell it before i tear it down this time.

HERE IS WHAT IS GOING UNDER IT RIGHT NOW AND PRICES...
04 tacoma 77k ext cab 3.4 v6
narrowerd front end 20" cut off the back

front
dana 60 rear end narrowed tacoma width pass drop w/toyota SAS outters
dirty30's resplined
trunion elim
PSC full hydro
3link w/panhard
ORI struts

rear
dana 60 narrowed tacoma width
stock tacoma axles resplined
disk brakes
4 LINK
ORI struts

3.0 tranny
4cyl gear driven dual cases w/4.7

42" pitbull rockers 16x10 steel wheels with weld on beadlocks


Triple stick setup $
PSC hydro kit $1067.75
PSC 3.4 pump kit $425
six shooter knuckles $260
DOM tubing @ $8ft $
8 ballistic joints @$48 $384
2 diff covers $
2 yota /d60 flange $75
4.56 gears 2qty $250
ORI struts 4qty $650
DIY beadlocks $225
toyota sas $300
dana 60 $70
dana 60 $80
tacoma rear axle $100
dirty 30's $540
respline $90
taco shaft respline $60
U bolt flip $35
spring hanger perch $45
4.7 gear $410
dual case adapter $235
23 spline shaft $119
v6 adapter 4cyl case $290
trunion elm kit $150
don brown machining $360
2 gear drive Tcases $160
16x10 steel wheels $100
42" pitbull rockers $1700

total $10,456 total i'll be around $15k when im done but i've also sold parts from some of the things i've bought and that list is below and made back around $1500


NOTE i have not bought any of the DOM tubing for my links or my rear brackets
NOTE some of my prices are diff as i know a trail gear dealer

this is where i make money back off things ive bought.

SOLD
toyota sas housing $100
3rd member $120
tacoma 3rd member $100
tacoma housing $100
yota sas inner axles $50
rear drive line $200
spring perch $80 (brand new) was gonna run the 63's
tacoma cross mem $30
squared driveline $30
pro comp shocks $70
u bolt flip kit $50 it was brand new
TG dualcase x member $170
4qty d60 FF axle shafts $40
63"s shackles/mounts $200

total $1440


theres lots of different ways to build an SAS tacoma and i MEAN lots you can be on a budget and still build a VERY reliable DD SAS taco. all i can recommend is reasearch ALOT www.pirate4x4.com here on TW.

i hope this helps i wasnt trying to bash just wanted to put out some more info cause i'd love to see more tacomas out there.

oh BTW i do build the dana 60/toyota fronts and tacoma rears and sell them. currently theres 3 of us running the fronts and atleast a dozen running the rears around my area.

 

oh and the 3.0l V6 oil pan works great and bolts right on and the pick up tube. no need for all the crap from the T100 setup and drilling out the new dip stick

EDIT: assuming you'd be doing the SAS on a v6 truck...for the 4cyl idk lol

 

So you didn't have any brakes or they were just magically perfect from 30 years ago? $50-100

Guess you couldn't steer either, since you had no hy-steer $300.

I'm sure those old school bearings were still solid after 20+ years as well. $100

Tires must of been free, I want free tires, please? $1,000

Gotta use this oil pan if you're not a 3.4l $250

Also didn't know a shop/welder/plasma cutter/torch/grinder/grinding wheels/beer were free either. $250

I could go on. No, you are right, you don't need to buy the best parts right away, but if you cheap out on everything and expect it to work SAFELY then I don't want to wheel with you, just saying.

my truck isn't anywhere near perfect and the cost's I have added on my truck or anyone elses truck is a rough estimate on a safe rig. Not some quick thrown together truck. You can do a SAS for cheap, gotta take your time finding the right deals at the right time. There are people that have done it, 5-10 years of collecting.

Truck looks great though, I'm just tired of the I can SAS for $32 and a dildo. It doesn't happen.