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Scheduled Maintenance (2nd gen) - 30,000 - 60,000 - 90,000 miles

Discussion in 'Technical Chat' started by harshest, Mar 19, 2009.

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  1. Jul 15, 2015 at 6:08 AM
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    You would think the chain be in an oiled environment, where the belt obviously does not. Tensioner?
    Anything is possible, but that seems to be a big stretch (ah!), especially if you are thinking of saving money...!!
     
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  2. Jul 15, 2015 at 8:50 AM
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    I thought the sec gens have timing chain not belt.
     
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  3. Jul 15, 2015 at 12:58 PM
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    I thought this, as well...
     
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  4. Jul 15, 2015 at 1:00 PM
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    A little of this and a little of that.
    Second generation 4.0 V6's have timing chains. No need to replace at 90K.
     
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  5. Jul 15, 2015 at 2:42 PM
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    Yes, timing chain is what is on the 1GR-FE in the Tacoma. If you open the oil filler neck and peer down the tube you can actually see it.
     
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  6. Jul 15, 2015 at 2:55 PM
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    That's what I thought. Maybe he's thinking about serpentine belt.
     
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  7. Jul 15, 2015 at 3:28 PM
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    My 02 Toy Tac 4x4 timing belt was replaced in 06 @ 67,000 miles and now it's at 143,000 think it is due again? Means it has gone 75,000 miles now.
     
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  8. Jul 15, 2015 at 3:34 PM
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  9. Jul 15, 2015 at 3:36 PM
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    I would NEVER replace a timing belt with a chain. There is a specific reason chains were replaced, specifically due to damage on engine if broke. Even though some damage can happen when belts break it is nothing compared to a chain when it breaks.
     
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  10. Jul 15, 2015 at 3:40 PM
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    Less drugs please.
     
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    HA who's talking about drugs? Jeez...
     
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  12. Jul 15, 2015 at 5:47 PM
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    This thread is for 2 gens not first gens. 2 gens 4.0 engines don't have timing belts. The reason they went with chains vs belts is there stronger. But yes when either one breaks there will be damage. I think he was just saying since you are posting about 1 st gens on a 2 gen thread he is thinking your smoking some of that funny stuff.lol
     
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  13. Jul 16, 2015 at 12:52 PM
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    No I was thinking of the timing belt, I just wasn't aware the Tacomas had chains.
    Good info to know though.

    Newer cars are not prone to the damage that older vehicles were when the timing belts or chains snapped. Today even if a chain were to snap, the damage done likely wouldn't be extraordinary (depending on one's financial definition of that word). Cars back in the day would be totaled with the breaking of a belt or chain. Today that isn't the case.
    Chains are less likely to break and have a longer life than belts. So if one really has anxiety about one breaking, I think the over all risk would be much lower with a chain.

    I know people who have replaced a belt with a chain, have done it themselves and screwed it up, it snapped. Total damage done was $700. Nothing that would cause me to develop an aversion to chains. If it had been installed properly, it would have out lasted that vehicle's life hands down.

    The way I see it:
    If a chain lasts 300K. That's approximately $1,500-$2,100 saved in replacement costs for 3 timing belts. If the chain breaks in that time, roughly $600-$1200 in damage. You still come out ahead and the chances of the chain breaking before then are pretty slim. Can promise a belt won't last 300K, though.
     
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  14. Jul 18, 2015 at 8:52 AM
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    I think manufacturers chose belts because of the weight savings (power/fuel savings as well?), and the fact that belts have now an extended life, well beyond the slated change recommendation - many people report changing belts themselves, and finding the old part still in near-perfect shape.

    Anecdote: Two prior cars of mine did not do too well after a regular- Joe mechanic did the change...
     
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  15. Jul 19, 2015 at 10:15 AM
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    I had a belt snap in a parking lot on my Honda. Bent two values and warped the head. Had to rebuild the whole top end. I'm not a fan of belts. That was just over 100,00 miles. But like you said they use them because cost/ weight savings . hell there not putting spare tires in cars now to save weight. Its wise to know if your car has a belt or chain and have it changed when recommend if its a belt. I hate to say it but I'm sure people get ripped off for a service they don't need.
     
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  16. Jul 29, 2015 at 10:05 AM
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    It broke on you because you didn't change it at around 60k miles when you should have. Instead of blaming the belt, maybe you should become a fan of known preventative maintenance. You never wait for a timing belt to pop before replacing it! That goes triple for interference motors like your Honda...as you've already learned the hard way :eek:
     
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  17. Jul 29, 2015 at 10:14 AM
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    What about at 134,000? I just it the mark...

    134K.jpg
     
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  18. Jul 30, 2015 at 7:28 AM
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    You could clean the throttle body and mad air flow sensor. Pretty easy to do.

    There is a thread on it somewhere, Genxer36 authored it, I think.
     
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  19. Jul 30, 2015 at 8:38 AM
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    Subd. Will be at 60k soon.
     
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