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Discussion in 'Suspension' started by desertjunkie760, May 14, 2019.

  1. May 14, 2019 at 10:42 AM
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    desertjunkie760

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    AccuTune recently released another article on spring rates for a Tacoma/T4R. I see this topic discussed ALL of the time in misc. threads with information spread across the board and very thin. Read and post your thoughts, ideas, etc. I'm simply trying to start the conversation and maybe spread some good info.

    **It's important to keep in mind that ride characteristics are preference and change per individual. What works for one may not work for another.

    https://accutuneoffroad.com/articles/coilover-spring-rates-for-toyota-tacoma-4runner/

    Also going to reference their article on preload because I see far too many people who still don't understand what preload truly is.

    https://accutuneoffroad.com/articles/spring-preload-matters/

    Additional Reference Articles/Thread conversations that I have found useful. Thanks mostly to @jberry813
    Basic theory on suspension travel
    All the suspension info a man needs. (Bring at least a 6pack.)
    Shackle Flip
    More suspension travel
    Debate on Chevy 63s. (Few pages long)
     
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  2. May 14, 2019 at 12:24 PM
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    What about progressive/digressive or dual rate springs? :popcorn:
     
  3. May 15, 2019 at 10:06 AM
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    Thanks for sharing, much appreciated.
     
  4. May 16, 2019 at 8:16 AM
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  5. May 16, 2019 at 8:17 AM
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    We appreciate the good info! Keep it coming!
     
  6. May 16, 2019 at 2:36 PM
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    Good info shared :thumbsup:
     
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    @AccuTune Offroad is there a way to use your math to help adjust 6112s for preload?
     
  8. May 20, 2019 at 8:05 AM
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    It depends on exactly what you mean.

    The motion ratio on Tacoma's is ~0.5, so 1/2" additional preload raises the vehicle 1".
     
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  9. May 20, 2019 at 9:27 AM
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    Wouldn't that depend on spring rate and vehicle weight?
     
  10. May 20, 2019 at 1:32 PM
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    Adding preload just raises the vehicle, it does not make the spring compress any more.
     
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    Great article. Thanks for sharing.

    @AccuTune Offroad - good stuff!
     
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  12. May 20, 2019 at 8:57 PM
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    I'm not following. That throws out everything I thought I knew about preload.

    Can you elaborate?
     
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  13. May 21, 2019 at 8:33 AM
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    I think you're thinking about full extension. At full extension you compress the spring more when adding preload.

    I was talking about ride height. At ride height additional preload just raises the vehicle.
    Springs compress due to weight.
    Adding preload does not make the vehicle weigh anymore, or change the motion ratio. Therefore the springs do not compress more at ride height from additional preload.
     
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    But by adjusting the preload aren't you essentially compressing the spring? I haven't read the article yet since I literally just found this link.
     
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    Negative. Hopefully this diagram helps:
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    That is probably the best and simplest explanation of preload that I’ve Seen makes it very simple to understand. :thumbsup:
     
  18. Sep 23, 2019 at 6:54 PM
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    Mind blown....not really hard to do tho!
     
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