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Should I Tackle 5100 Swap?

Discussion in 'Suspension' started by On An Island, Jul 26, 2013.

  1. Jul 26, 2013 at 6:09 AM
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    I have my height-adjustable 5100s in the garage. I'm wanting to do the swap myself, but my auto-wrenching (that sounds bad :) ) experience stops at plugs, hoses, oil changes, thermostats, etc. I have all the stands and tools except for the spring compressors and I don't have a problem getting a good set of those. However, I've seen the videos of the compressors failing and flying all over the neighborhood and now I'm wondering if it's worth the risk. Should I give it a try?
     
  2. Jul 26, 2013 at 6:15 AM
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    I'd tackle the install yourself but, if it were me, I'd take the old coilovers and the new 5100's to a shop and have them swap the springs over. They have much larger spring compressors and could do it in a matter of minutes.
     
  3. Jul 26, 2013 at 7:07 AM
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    Thanks Pugga, that's a good idea. 22,000 posts!? When do you have time to drive your Taco?

    Unfortunately my torque wrench only goes up to 75 lbs. I'm way short of the 100+ needed.
     
  5. Jul 26, 2013 at 7:35 AM
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    Doing everything except compressing the coils will not absolve you from torquing the knuckle bolts or cam adjusters :confused:
     
  6. Jul 26, 2013 at 8:16 AM
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    D'oh. Good point. New torque wrench to come....
     
  7. Jul 26, 2013 at 8:18 AM
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    :anonymous:
     
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    After putting my lift on like the video, I honestly don't know why anyone would do it any other way. Spring compressors scare me.

    Toyota makes a really good spring compressor. It's pretty expensive, but then we already own one. :D
     
  9. Jul 26, 2013 at 8:21 AM
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    Oh boy, so much work!?!?!?
     
  10. Jul 26, 2013 at 9:21 AM
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    After watching Mr. Hypoxia's video another time, I think I'll try that method. More to follow. . . .
     
  11. Jul 26, 2013 at 9:25 AM
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    Yeah, but that's half the fun.
     
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    Just to clarify. It's not my video. In fact I believe it was created by another member here a while back. I'm grateful he made it as it really made my install a breeze.
    Another friend of mine did his own install the same way with the same great results. :thumbsup:

    The springs do store a great deal of potential energy that could ruin your day so this should be attempted with caution. I personally believe the risk to be less than what there would be with spring compressors though.
     
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    I made the video.

    PM me if you have questions or need help.
     
  14. Jul 26, 2013 at 10:27 AM
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    Thanks Derek.
     
  15. Jul 26, 2013 at 11:54 AM
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    Only thing I can add is...
    -Work on as level ground as you can
    -Align the knuckle and LCA up before trying to threading the bolts into the knuckle (If not working on level ground)
    -Not needed, but for my situation, if I had another pair of hands to push the knuckle down, I would have not cross threaded and stripped my knuckle...

    Think that was my only problem using this method, other than that, works great..
     
  16. Jul 26, 2013 at 12:06 PM
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    I never remove or loosen the knuckle or LCA bolts. Just watch out for the speed sensor lines and you will be fine...
     
  17. Jul 26, 2013 at 3:50 PM
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    If you don't disconnect the LCA from the knuckle/spindle, how do you have enough room to drop the shock out. (using the video method??)
     
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    A wrench was thrown into the plans (not a torque wrench, either). I forgot that several weeks ago I'd volunteered to help the sis-in-law put new baseboards in her house. I've been tearing out old ones today, and getting/cutting/installing new stuff tomorrow. Oh well, next weekend.
     
  19. Jul 28, 2013 at 4:00 AM
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    The most i have ever done to get more play in there is the UCA to spindle bolt...
     
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    sub'd thanks for the video ddd
     
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