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Slight annoying vibration finally cured!!! Hub centric vs lug centric

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by sandjunkie, May 15, 2012.

  1. May 15, 2012 at 7:44 PM
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    sandjunkie

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    I had a slight annoying vibration that I could not diagnose as a driveline or tire balance in the seat of the pants. It caused the passenger seat to shake at speeds greater than 70 mph and was most pronounced on really smooth surfaces. It was perplexing because it seemed to show up immediately following a tire rotation after my lift, wheels, and tires were installed and road force balance. Everything was smooth as silk until I got my truck back from a routine service and tire rotation.

    Today I installed two two parts and the vibration is completely gone.

    The first one is the correct lug nuts from wheelers offroad with the shank to center the wheels on the hub. They are the gorilla splined ones for $1.99 each on this site. http://www.wheelersoffroad.com/tacomablackalloys.htm

    The second was these rings to center the wheel on the hub and take up the slack between the wheels and the hub. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0032HQJ7G/ref=oh_details_o02_s00_i00

    So for $50, it's finally glass smooth. Hopefully this will help someone else struggling after new rims. It basically comes down to hub centric vs lug centric and the right parts to make sure a well balanced wheel and tire drive like one.
     
  2. May 16, 2012 at 7:23 AM
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    mws4ua

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    Are these the same lugs? They're not much cheaper on Amazon, but they will get me free shipping on everything.

    http://goo.gl/HjX20
     
  3. May 16, 2012 at 8:05 AM
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    Nope. Those are the acorn style for hub centric wheels. The ones I am talking about are these. They look similar but have a shank underneath the acorn for centering of the wheel on the lug holes.

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  4. May 16, 2012 at 8:08 AM
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    Glad I didn't pull the trigger. Thanks.


    One more question... The rings you linked: The inner diameter should be the same for my truck 106.1mm, but wouldn't the outer diameter (108mm) vary depending on my wheels?
     
  5. May 16, 2012 at 8:13 AM
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    Exactly. I think the 108 is pretty common on most after market wheels but you may see 110 also.
     
  6. May 16, 2012 at 9:04 AM
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    Thanks again for the help...

    I looked up the wheel here and found the bore size is 107.95mm, so the one you linked should work.

    I also went out to the truck and pulled off one of my lugs... I thought the ones above looked familiar. Turns out I currently have the same lugs as the amazon.com link I posted above (except chrome). I'll get the ones you linked and sell these. (Anybody interested?)

    I'm not getting out of this for $50, though... the Lugs alone are $47.76 before shipping, and even if I can find something else to buy on Amazon to get the free shipping, it's still $16.88. Not super-expensive, but still.

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  7. May 16, 2012 at 9:15 AM
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    Hub centric rings make all the difference. My previous daily driver was a Lexus IS250. I put 19" Infiniti G37 wheels on it and it shook like crazy on the highway. Bought some hub centric rings and installed them and it was smooth as glass.

    [​IMG]
     
  8. May 16, 2012 at 9:18 AM
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    Love that car! I sold a 2003 IS300 to get my taco. Miss that car.
     
  9. May 16, 2012 at 9:29 AM
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    I have hub centric rings on all my wheels. It's a must.
     
  10. May 16, 2012 at 9:40 AM
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    Sub'd. I have had this issue for almost 2 years and it has been driving me nuts. I'm definitely trying this.
     
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    Is this needed for stock wheels?
     
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    Were your new wheels you bought lugcentric then? just the bore was larger?
     
  13. May 16, 2012 at 10:31 AM
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    That's the same thing.
     
  14. May 16, 2012 at 12:42 PM
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    No. Factory rims are hub centric already. You only need them if the wheels you are running have a larger center bore than the factory rim.
     
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    I have the same problem right now! And we have the same wheels, so I'm glad somebody already found the right hub rings to buy to eliminate vibes :)

    My vibes are terrible too, just because of the Ballistic Jesters... Oh well, once I buy the hub rings and install them I'll be able to have nice rims and no vibes!

    Can you still use your center caps with hub rings?
     
  17. May 16, 2012 at 1:10 PM
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    The spline part is not going to make the difference in this situation. It's the ET (extended thread) shank that will hold the wheel steady. If you don't want to run a spline lug, gorilla also has the extended thread in a stardard hex lug.
     
  18. May 16, 2012 at 2:04 PM
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    Yep, no problem with the center caps. I would suggest getting the right lug nuts as well. I think these did more to center the wheel than the hub rings.
     
  19. May 16, 2012 at 2:07 PM
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    I was not talking about the spline part. I was talking about the same shank that you are mentioning. :rolleyes:
     
  20. May 16, 2012 at 8:24 PM
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    Yeah, I know. Was clarifying for others that you don't necessarily need spline lugs. As long as they are ET, you're good to go. :facepalm:
     
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