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Sluggo: The 4 banger build

Discussion in '1st Gen. Builds' started by IDtrucks, Dec 17, 2011.

  1. May 15, 2013 at 1:22 PM
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    So how do you know if the locker is engaged or not?
     
  3. May 15, 2013 at 2:22 PM
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  5. May 15, 2013 at 2:35 PM
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    It's pretty easy to tell tire chirp when you turn.

    Plus the button will be depressed..
     
  6. May 15, 2013 at 2:40 PM
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    What i was asking was did he setup a light that lets him know if its engaged or not. The button could be pressed but how would he really know it was locked or not. And driving on dirt you wouldnt hear any chirping. Also the actuator may fail too so he wouldnt know if it was engaged or not.
     
  7. May 15, 2013 at 2:42 PM
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    Doesn't mean the light could fail too..so..that's not going to help if the actuator dies.

    Should be an easy circuit to hook up. I'm sure the switch just connects the first for the light.

    But..idk if he even has one being a 96. Idk if Toyota woulda started putting those in or not.
     
  8. May 15, 2013 at 2:45 PM
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    They did. When i took apart my dash i could see where the bulb lit it up.
     
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    Interesting

    Well get busy mark haha
     
  10. May 16, 2013 at 1:09 AM
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    holy talking in the thread!



    yup, the CBI moab 1.0
    u going to moab this year?

    I already want 35s, 33s are so tiny looking.

    LOL
    he always ends up answering questions for me

    on the locker there are 2 plugs, one with 2 wires and one with 5. The one with 5 actually runs the motor, the other plug with 2 wires is a circuit that gets completed when the locker is engaged. I ran that (instead of to the dash light) to the switch light. So when the locker is engaged the circuit will be completed and the light in the switch will light up. Dont know if it works yet because i need to fix the connector for the light wires, the wires ripped out of the connector.

    now that is interesting! is there really a diff lock light in the dash??

    I can't believe there is because I didn't think the 96s came with the option for a diff lock, so why would there be a light for it? I would love to have a light in the dash. but i dont really feel like taking it all apart either. project for another day, if it exists.
     
  11. May 16, 2013 at 12:38 PM
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    This is a 4runner, but its a non-TRD 4runner. Buddy did an elocker swap

    [​IMG]
     
  12. May 16, 2013 at 12:45 PM
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    I know the non TRD 2nd gens still have the exact same dash and what not, but it seems weird that a rig made before the TRD existed would have it.
     
  13. May 16, 2013 at 2:27 PM
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    exactly, i know later year 4runners and tacos came wired for the light if they didn't have it...but the TRD package with the locker did not exist in 1996 i dont think, so there would be no light for it.
     
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    some did. Mike had a TRD tacoma before there was an official TRD tacoma. had the locker and all. it was an option possibly back then. it is like how they wire trucks for fog lights even though it isnt equipped with them. same thing with the light.

    maybe your truck doesnt have the light, but to me, it is entirely possible.
     
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    That's true. The 8" e-locker diff has been around since like the 80's hasn't it? I just didn't know it was in the Tacoma then.
     
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    it looks nice man. ive been on TW like 4 times this semester so im not hip on all the latest stuff

    but idk about moab, i really want to. work will be kinda pissed if i go but i might just tell them :brianr:
     
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    haha I should have been on 4 times. i wasted a lot of time here. but i feel like I did pretty well on my finals! Except jazz...fuck that class.

    And you should REALLY come to moab man. In case you haven't see the thread...its going to be huge! I've got a nice little roster of trails to run this time.

    DO IT!
     
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    i probably will. for some reason i was thinking it was next weekend but now that i realized its in 2 weekends, its looking better.

    still gotta do some mods to the front suspension/steering because it literally feels like i drive a boat
     
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    So I got my third re geared and into the new axle and the axle under the truck and everything together snug as a bug in a rug. Just as a side note I just drove 270 miles home after we got this done so the re gear and diff are dandy.

    K so the issue. After the truck came off the lift I went to test it and no matter which position I had the locker switch in the tires would stay locked, now take note I wired and installed my own completely separate e locker circuit, but it seemingly worked fine when the third was out of the housing. The motor itself was working because every time I hit the button we could hear the actuator working.

    So we pulled the truck back in and took out the motor and slid the locker slide gear with a screw driver to unlock it and we could spin the tires in open diff mode. We then put the locker motor back in with the locker gear slid a bit differently and when I hit the switch it would slide the locker to engage but it was like it would just barely catch because we could hear the diff ratcheting trying to engage but it couldn't, because our guess is the collar did not slide enough.

    Also odd was that when I had the button depressed it disengaged the locker, and when the button was in the "off position" the locker tried to engage. Admittedly when I tested the wiring before installing I was not sure if being in or out was locked or unlocked, i just saw it move and assumed it was right. So with that, could there be a difference in how the motor works in "reverse" and "engage" mode? Like if the motor is being told to reverse when it should be locking is it spinning more or less than the locked command?

    Tomorrow i am going to test my buddy's motor in my diff to see if the motor or the wiring is the issue. We have eliminated the gears inside the diff as the issue because we were able to slide them into locked and unlocked pretty easily with a screw driver, so if there was a binding issue that could not have happened.




    Other info:

    Wiring diagram



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    Testing outside the third:

    Out:
    [​IMG]

    In:

    [​IMG]
     
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    Interesting... not sure what to tell ya man other than continue testing like you plan. You could always just engage the locker with a screw driver at the start of the trail and then disengage at the end if all else fails haha
     
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