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(Sort of) Finished my little stereo build...

Discussion in 'Audio & Video' started by shaneckc, Jan 8, 2012.

  1. Jan 8, 2012 at 3:37 PM
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    shaneckc

    shaneckc [OP] Fyntünd Designs Vendor

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    So after a year of piecing things together, I finally finished my stereo.

    Head Unit:

    Kenwood DNX7140
    http://www.kenwoodusa.com/Car_Entertainment/2009_Car_Entertainment/DNX7140
    I bought this unit because it has a Digital Coaxial Output... When I first talked to Kenwood technical support, they told me that the digital output could be used on any source, so I was gonna feed my Audio Processor with it. Unfortunately, they were mistaken and I later found out that the digital out can only be used for DVD Audio. Oh well. The user interface with the head unit is pretty easy to use, it works well with my iDevices, and the Navigation and Bluetooth works very well.

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    Audio Processors / Line Drivers:

    Audison Bit One
    http://www.audison.eu/index.php?page=product&id=1
    I cannot say enough about this device. The Audison Bit One is extremely user friendly and allows you to have supreme control over your audio. It truly works miracles for an audio system with its time alignment, electronic crossovers, equalizer, and DRC remote.

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    Audio Control Matrix
    http://www.audiocontrol.com/t34/524...Matrix-Six-Channel-Car-Audio-Line-Driver.html
    This piece was a must-have for my stereo. The Kenwood Head Unit Pre-Out provides insufficient voltage for my amplifiers. Using an oscilloscope to set my gain structure with this piece proved its worth. It adds no distortion to the signal and can boost it to exactly what my amplifiers need. Doing this allows me to run my front-stage amplifiers with the gains set to zero, adding minimal noise and distortion.

    Amplifiers:

    Hertz EP4X

    http://www.hertzaudiovideo.com/Doc/hertz_EP4x_tech_eng.pdf
    Wired in bridged mode for my mid-bass door speakers, this amp is rated to put 320 watts to each speaker.

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    Hertz EP4
    http://www.hertzaudiovideo.com/Doc/hertz_EP4_tech_eng.pdf
    Wired in bridged mode for my tweeters, this amp is rated to put 180 watts to each tweeter.


    JL Audio HD 1200/1
    http://www.jlaudio.com/hd1200-1-car-audio-hd-amplifiers-98250
    Wiring my sub woofers to an impedance of about 4 ohms, this amp undoubtedly puts out more than 1200w of power without breaking a sweat. I'm really happy with the dynamic range of my bass stage, thanks to this amp.

    Drivers:

    Hertz ML280 Tweeters &
    Hertz ML1600.2 Mid-Bass
    http://www.hertzaudiovideo.com/Doc/Hertz_Mille_TechSheet_ML_280.pdf
    http://www.hertzaudiovideo.com/Doc/Hertz_Mille_TechSheet_ML_1600.pdf
    Very dynamic speakers. No awkward peaks or crackling. These speakers have a phenomenal tonal quality. The mid bass speakers can handle a great amount of power even at lower frequencies. With the amount of clean power that this front stage receives, female vocals and piano keys are reproduced flawlessly at maximum volume. I am truly impressed with these speakers.

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    The custom tweeter pods were both challenging and fun to make. These are the first ones I've ever made on my own. The texture paint can be tricky, especially when starting off with a can that is not brand new. They turned out pretty good.


    JL Audio 10W6v3 Sub Woofers - New as of 2/19/2013

    http://www.jlaudio.com/10w6v3-d4-car-audio-w6v3-subwoofer-drivers-92140

    After several issues with the 10w6v2's that I previously chose for my stereo, I almost wanted to completely disregard using their subs in my truck. Since my permanent enclosure is a little bit proprietary to JL subs, and I don't want to make the massive effort it would take to change it, I had no choice but to upgrade to the version 3's and hope for the best. From examining the differences in specifications between the version 2 and version 3 of the W6's, I was a little skeptical about whether or not there would be a huge difference in sound quality, but the fact that they changed the surround to a thick, durable rubber made for good piece of mind (I tore 6 of the foam surrounds within one year of owning my w6v2's through normal listening and JL was not willing to try and make amends once the 1 year warranty expired).

    Despite my previous skepticism, I am VERY happy with the improvements that JL has made for the version 3 W6. Their tonal quality is MUCH better than that of the previous versions. They are extremely tight, dynamic, and have no problem playing as loud as I could hope for with my current set up. I am very impressed, and glad that JL made such astounding improvements for these new versions. Having my gain structure set up to be mainly dependent on input voltage to my amplifiers, with the Audison DRC remote, I can adjust the output of my bass stage to precisely match my music selection without worrying about adding distortion or clipping. The new, more sleek look of the W6's is also pretty cool.

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    The enclosure is built to the metal of the rear wall of the truck. Doing this anchored the box very well. The rear backrest panel had a section cut out of it to fit the box. The inside of the box as a few sheets of DynaMat, all walls of the enclosure covered with 1" dampening foam, stuffed with poly-fill, and about 3-4 tubes of silicone to ensure a full seal.

    I made the false floor panels to cover up my amps and the piece that sits just below the box houses the audio control matrix.


    Under the hood:

    The two Red Top Optima batteries keep the system powered up while playing at full volume. I installed a 240 amp Mean-Green alternator to help out, as well. With the system conservatively rated for about 2220 watts, my voltage still never drops below 13 volts while playing at maximum levels.

    Since the completion of this stereo a while ago, I've noticed one problem with my voltage, which I have determined to be the regulator on my upgraded alternator. Abruptly changing current draws make my voltage spike, sometimes above 15v. As you can imagine, this does not make some electronics too happy. In particular, my mid-bass amp will go into protect mode for a split second on the rare occasion that my voltage goes above 15v. My headlights will also get very bright for a moment when this happens. Mean-Green was nice enough to send me a replacement regulator for the alternator, but I haven't made time to pull out the alternator and replace it, yet.

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    I had a friend that does metal-work make up a custom battery rack to house the two red-tops. It turned out great and anchors the batteries securely.

    Sound deadening:

    DynaMat Xtreme
    I lost count of how much DynaMat Xtreme I used after about 5 boxes. Most things got covered with two layers. Here is a list of what I covered with it:
    Roof (including plastic spacers between the roof and headliner)
    Rear wall
    Floor
    Doors (Outer skin, Inner skin, and backside of the door panel itself)
    Firewall
    All plastic panels in the truck

    DynaPad
    I covered the floor, firewall, and some of the rear wall with DynaPad on top of the DynaMat Xtreme.

    Trunk-Liner Carpet
    I upholstered the back side of my headliner, inside of my door panels, and the inside of several other panels in the truck with trunk-liner carpet.

    Silicon
    I used silicon to remedy several vibrations and rattles in the truck. There are very few left, I think it's about as close to perfect as it gets in a Toyota.

    After all the sound deadening, there's pretty much no audible annoyances in the truck while driving and listening to the stereo. Even with the bass turned all the way up on rap or dubstep, without listening specifically for vibrations/rattles, they go unnoticed.

    In conclusion,


    Altogether, I am extremely happy with the stereo. It is one of the best quality car stereos I have ever heard (compared to other high end systems that fellow employee's at my specialty shop have completed in the past). It can be violently loud while reproducing quality recordings with pristine clarity.

    Yes, anybody who must endure the rare occasion of sitting in either backseat is going to be extremely uncomfortable. It's a small price to pay.:D

    Comments? Questions?
     
  2. Jan 8, 2012 at 4:04 PM
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    lbridges

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    So, I'm guessing the midbass is in the OEM location and nothing is behind the OEM tweeter grills? Lots of drool inducing gear. :thumbsup:
     
  3. Jan 8, 2012 at 4:12 PM
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    Holy crap
     
  4. Jan 8, 2012 at 4:12 PM
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    shaneckc

    shaneckc [OP] Fyntünd Designs Vendor

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    That is correct. I forgot to mention the installed Cascade Audio 9" Deflex back wave absorber pads behind the door speakers, as well. It's hard to tell if they made a difference, but I guess they it's better for the speakers, anyways.
     
  5. Jan 8, 2012 at 4:14 PM
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    Also a price range if you dont mind me asking
     
  6. Jan 8, 2012 at 4:29 PM
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    shaneckc

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    Probably around $10,000 if the shop owner is cool.
     
  7. Jan 8, 2012 at 4:30 PM
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    VooDoo More Cowbell!

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    super nice, super clean. love it!
     
  8. Jan 8, 2012 at 5:14 PM
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    10,000.00$ USD???

    American Dollars?


    HOLY crap!!!
    That insane :eek:

    I bet it sounds AMAZING!!
     
  9. Jan 8, 2012 at 5:44 PM
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    Yeah, the components are not cheap. Around $6,000-$7,000 alone if you're getting a moderate discount on stuff. Not to mention the cost of the sound deadening materials, cables & installation materials, and labor.

    It does sound pretty damn awesome, though! There's no way I could justify paying full price for a stereo like this. I am very fortunate to have connections in the car audio industry. There's a certain point when piecing a system together where the ratio between money spent and results produced becomes very out of proportion for most people.
     
  10. Jan 8, 2012 at 6:02 PM
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    Thats pretty sick I'd love to hear it but high doubt anything could justify it!


    Props to you!
     
  11. Jan 8, 2012 at 6:47 PM
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    Very impressive! You must not be worried about anyone seeing your system....
     
  12. Jan 8, 2012 at 6:59 PM
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    haha oh, I am. Its not so bad in the are where I live, though. I think I will use the extra vinyl I have left over to make a cover for the sub box that I can put on when I park it places. For now, I just keep some towels in the back seat and pile them on top of it if I have to park somewhere I don't like.
     
  13. Jan 8, 2012 at 7:38 PM
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    Some people drop'm, some people lift'm, some people make'm loud and then others... make them LOUD....


    Everyone is different
     
  16. Jan 9, 2012 at 6:47 AM
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    Those custom tweeter pods look great, good job with everything.
     
  17. Jan 9, 2012 at 7:16 AM
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    Nice work on the tweeter pods. I might be doing a similar set for a new tweeter I'm having OEM'd very soon. And it's also nice to know you can get two optima's under the hood. I'll never have an issue since I'm running class D but I didn't think you could get them to fit like that!

    PS: 2v pre-outs should be more than sufficient. More is certainly better but I wouldn't regard 2v as insufficient.
     
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    Thanks!
    Which class D amps are you using? I had my front stage bi-amplified from a single JL XD600/6 and was thoroughly unimpressed. It was too quiet with the gains at zero and adding any gain would produce some nasty distortion.

    I used the term insufficient a little loosely, I suppose. But if the amps can take 5v in, I want them to get 5v in. Boosting the pre-amp adds little or no distortion in comparison to adding gain on the amplifiers, from what I've found.
     
  19. Jan 9, 2012 at 10:48 AM
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    Beautiful job, great equipment.. Love it man, great work!
     
  20. Jan 9, 2012 at 11:22 AM
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    What levels of distortion were you seeing by turning up the gains on the amps and at what power rating? And I suppose it would be good for me to ask WHAT type of distortion you were seeing.
     
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