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Soundproofing Wind Noise

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by Warren Thompson, Oct 22, 2009.

  1. Sep 20, 2015 at 7:04 AM
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    Had you not posted in this thread this morning, I would have never known about this. I have to go to HD this morning anyways so I think I'll buy the needed materials while I'm there and install them during the week.
     
  2. Sep 20, 2015 at 7:05 AM
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    Had you not posted in this thread this morning, I would have never known about this. I have to go to HD this morning anyways so I think I'll buy the needed materials while I'm there and install them during the week.
     
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  3. Sep 20, 2015 at 7:27 AM
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    Good. While you are there, maybe pick up some Frost King too. :D

    https://www.tacomaworld.com/index.php?threads/388014/
     
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    Good looking out. I just may pick some up and check it's effectiveness in my PreRunner.

    Last night though I discovered a long forgotten goodie in the storage unit: a still sealed box of RAMMAT and closed cell foam that I originally purchased circa 2007 for my Silverado. I opened it up and everything is still in perfect shape.
     
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    I put some in mine 3 or 4 years ago. Its still there, so it does stick and handles the heat, also does not smell at all. Now as for if it works, don't really know. I was not having a problem before I put it in, I just decided to do it since it was cheap. I don't notice any rattles though.
     
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    I looked at the weather stripping available at Home Depot and Dixieline which of the closest home stores to me. The type of seals vary considerably as far as what they're made from. I observed silicone, EPDM, open cell PVC, and others.

    This immediately caused me to do a little research on automotive weather seals. And this is what I found:

    "Automotive weatherstripping is commonly made of EPDM rubber, a thermoplastic elastomer (TPE) mix of plastic and rubber, and a thermoplastic olefin (TPO) polymer/filler blend. Sunroof weatherstripping can also be made from silicone due to the extreme heat encountered by automobile roofs."

    When I got home I found some weather sealing in my garage I took that I compressed it put it in a bowl of water and I watched it suck in water, probably not good for automotive use. Based on my research and my little trial and error I'm going to try some silicone weatherstripping since it's impervious to water and should hold up in high heat. I may try the EPDM stuff too depending on cost.
     
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    I have a pretty loud whine from wind going about 60-70 mph. I wonder if the rope in the front window seal will fix that. I sounds like the noise is behind me while driving though. Kinda hard to tell what and where it is coming from?? Anyone have ideas on that?
     
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    It might. A little trial and error can be very helpful.

    I'll tell you my plan. I'm going to do something similar to the OP Instead of applying open-cell foam seal to both sides (door and jamb), I'm just doing one side, probably the door. I carefully measured the gap between the drivers door and door jam using my daughters play-doh, sans modeling clay. :D Worked great! I measured in three places, appears to be a 3/8" gap all the way around, so using a 1/2" "D" seal is a good idea, IMO. I've requested a few different samples from a national manufacturer of high quality EPDM seals with 3M adhesive. I think they may arrive next week. Once I'm happy with the seal product, I'll purchase in bulk and do all the doors.

    I recently pulled one of the panels from the rear of my truck and I couldn't believe how much dust was in there.

    Check it out:
    IMG_20150912_115456_5a2cb8870e2f53d1757c2c654c8eafc99929bd0b.jpg

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    looks familiar :annoyed:
     
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    Links to final product would be very appreciated.
     
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    Bump. I did (most of) this project on my 2014 this weekend. I left off the the windshield part. I bought the stripping at local auto parts store...didn't check hardware stores, but I bet it could be cheaper. I bought the EVMD (?) foam with one-side adhesive strip. Total cost was less than $70 so I'm not complaining.

    I have magnetic grey, so the black stripping is not noticeable at all...looks factory IMO. I took my time. Straight lines and looks good.

    I tested a '16 recently. And really liked the quieter ride. But I own a '14 that I am very happy with...and haven't nearly paid for!!! Cutting the wind noise as the OP described is a game-changer IMO. It is not as quiet as a '16, but then I didn't have to pull the seats and carpet either. My truck is quieter...subtle, but noticeable. And I didn't even do the whole mod. I recommend it.
     
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  14. Sep 28, 2015 at 8:08 PM
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    Sounds good.

    Will do.

    I just got my product catalog from the rubber company along with some product samples. I need some more time to test fit the samples, but they look outstanding. Will post some pics with ruler for scale when time permits. I'm really looking forward to executing this project and reaping the rewards. :D
     
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    I finally completed this mod. It took much longer than i expected. A lot more trial and error was in involved. Will post a link to product that I used and a few pics and tips from my install in a few days.
     
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    I'd love to see some photos when you have some time. Thanks
     
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    I'd love see pics of your application too!
     
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    Okay here is what I can tell you.

    It takes a lot of trial and error to get this right. Too much new insulation makes the OEM seals no good, so a careful balance must be found.

    Also, there are irregular surfaces and tolerances that are different between the doors so what works on one door may be off for another.

    But in a nutshell, what I did can be used as a guide, just like the OP in this thread.

    Also, there are two kinds of adhesives sold with seals. The 3M stuff which is great, and acrylic which is not so great for automotive use. The seals with 3M are much more expensive. I have about $70 into my seal project.

    Heat gun was helpful, and sound deadner roller.
    IMG_20151106_135539_2de7c78a501b46b05f7e6305a3c4018c86c7bd41.jpg

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    I used the 1/2" Trim-lok seals on the bottom of all the doors. AND the 1/4" EPDM on the front door edges.
    IMG_20151106_143428_bc221e1907a8a04c526abde88cb1c174177146ef.jpg
    1/4" EPDM seal on front door edge.
    IMG_20151106_143257_0e4f917ca53b50a8a67018a8780c9e521ea28b73.jpg

    The pear shaped stuff was used on the door edges for the REAR doors.
    IMG_20151106_143348_f38de81575bd1f68b2757e50eafeb2d00d778545.jpg

    I also used the 1/4" stuff on the B pillar, and I had to reinforce the OEM seal as it was deforming. The piece that's horizontal in the photo is doing that.
    IMG_20151106_143226_9ba97954fb049d64fc79288a73d84d2c83c4a5ec.jpg

    There is a noticeable reduction in wind noise. I'm still going to do the foam rope shit on the windshield once I can find it. My stupid home depot only has the 3/8" stuff.

    Like I said before, lots of trial and error! One really helpful tip is to cut 1" test pieces and apply them on the front door, then open the rear door to observe the collapsed profile to make sure the seal is doing its job.

    Thank you Warren Thompson for your idea!
     
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    crom im curious as to why you used the teardrop seals on the rear doors instead of the D shaped foam
     

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