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Squeaky Penguin's (Trip Reports) Build Thread

Discussion in '1st Gen. Builds (1995-2004)' started by Squeaky Penguin, Feb 3, 2013.

  1. Jul 31, 2019 at 8:45 AM
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    Squeaky Penguin

    Squeaky Penguin [OP] Nothing Ventured, Nothing Gained

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    It could work. Or have the shackle mount go through the frame. You would probably also want to adjust it forward to get the proper shackle angle.

    You would also be shifting up the travel in relation to the frame. Not any real issue, but you would get less likes on your IG post as it would look like you have less droop.

    Also, are you prepared to move those shock mounts?

    Tim last weekend: "If I were to do it again, I would have just left it stock." :luvya:
     
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  2. Jul 31, 2019 at 8:50 AM
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    Still seems like you are bumping the truck early by inflating them, and not fully taking advantage of the uptravel regardless the way I always have been looking at it.

    The lowers? Yeah of course. That's easy enough with some cutting and grinding. I don't care about the gram likes, I want a truck that fully takes advantage of my suspension. So if I need to redo bump height and the lower mounts I can technically do all of that with the bed still on the frame. The harder shit is already done with boxing the frame and the upper mounts. I honestly expected this setup to be V1 and not 100% perfect first go around.
     
  3. Jul 31, 2019 at 9:29 AM
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    I did say that, and still stand by it.

    But I'm years into my SC development and enjoy the power and whiny noises to much to go back to stock. Plus my cost of admission was 1/4 of what a SC kit goes for now and that included the fuel upgrade kit.
     
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  4. Jul 31, 2019 at 9:54 AM
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    Thats how I used to think of it too. But really your changing the spring rate. it does become progressive but with the right bags and if you use your pressures right, it works fine. It would changing the handling and you'd want shocks that are adjustable to cope with it. Not a simple solution really.
     
  5. Jul 31, 2019 at 12:07 PM
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    I have my airbags set up so that I don’t bump early or loose any down travel. The system works very well and gives the truck a versatility that no production parts could. The airbags do require more compression valving, so comp adjusters are a must. I planned on getting comp adjusters regardless, so that wasn’t a big deal for me.
     
  6. Jul 31, 2019 at 12:08 PM
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    It is progressive, however the carli bags have so much volume that it’s not as noticeable as a normal airbag.
     
  7. Jul 31, 2019 at 12:16 PM
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    Sorry for the thread jack @Squeaky Penguin, thank's for the info on your leafs! Thank you @austinmtb for the info on your bags! If I need more airbag info I'll tag ya'll in my build. :cheers:
     
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  8. Jul 31, 2019 at 12:29 PM
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    w.adventures Adventure is out there

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    @TMFF since I didn’t go with adjusters how should I valve my Kings when it’s time for a rebuild where it’s a good compromise for driving unloaded and when loaded up for #overlanding activities with the airbags inflated.
     
  9. Jul 31, 2019 at 12:50 PM
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    Could always add adjusters when it’s time for a rebuild.
     
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  10. Jul 31, 2019 at 4:13 PM
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    it's about $150 in parts to add per shock.

    @w.adventures Don't over think it on your short bus, the current shim stacks are probably at the loaded/unloaded compromise.
     
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  11. Jul 31, 2019 at 6:08 PM
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    Awesome thanks, going to save my money and spend it on other stuff I don’t need for the short bus. We shall see how it handles next week when it’s all loaded up.
     
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  12. Aug 9, 2019 at 7:07 AM
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    Are you happy with your spring rate Brett? It seems like you have the spring preloaded a bit, but I am assuming the valving got adjusted to compensate. What rate are you running currently?
     
  13. Aug 12, 2019 at 4:47 PM
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    Put a little under 2,000 miles on the truck last week to double my sticker collection and watch @Reh5108 outfish me in jorts. :cookiemonster:

    [​IMG]IMG_1950-2 by Brett Bjorgum, on Flickr

    [​IMG]IMG_20190811_092336 by Brett Bjorgum, on Flickr

    Engine's running perfectly. :notsure: Might send it a little longer.

    More to come.


    They're 650s. I just cranked them several turns more earlier this year, and think I went a little too much. Not quite enough downtravel. I know a shock guy, and he says no go to 700s on a 1st gen due to the leverage ratio. Valving is key. I think a lot of people are upping their spring rates to compensate for shitty valving. Speaking of which, my truck is riding so good right now, huge thanks to @TMFF and his magical valve stacks. Those ADS' were valved like garbage from the factory.
     
  14. Aug 13, 2019 at 5:23 AM
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    Good to know about the 650’s and the valving. I was going to send Tyler photos of your hose setup since I feel it’s the best location to protect the resi’s. I don’t have anyone local as far as I know who can valve shocks though. @TMFF is there anything I can tell ADS to adjust from the jump for a similar setup to Brett’s? We are weighted similarly except I have a tube bumper instead of plate, though my crossmember built out of mostly 1/4” probably gets us close.
     
  15. Aug 13, 2019 at 6:05 AM
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    No. Unless your truck is setup just like Brett's. My ads shocks from Matt are valved pretty good. But if I had a winch...hell no. Or heavier skid. I'm right on the edge if them getting floaty.
     
  17. Aug 13, 2019 at 8:03 AM
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    Front end wise we are similar. 3.4 V6 Manuals, bunch of gusseted parts, both running synthetic winches, and heavy IFS skids. Only difference is an all pro plate vs an Addicted Offroad tube, which like I said I built a beefy 1/4" crossmember which adds quite a bit of extra weight to the tube setup. Our rear ends are completely different, yes, but front ends we are pretty damn close.
     
  18. Aug 13, 2019 at 8:06 AM
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    Spotted Brett's media guy back in action! Just look at the commitment from this guy! He's not afraid to get down and dirty for the shot. Rumor has it that he's seeking to photograph other "influencers". Act fast before his schedule is booked!IMG_20190809_125455.jpg
     
  19. Aug 13, 2019 at 8:07 AM
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    Do you have the weight of your front axle? Could compare it to Brett's number.
     
  20. Aug 13, 2019 at 8:09 AM
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    Have them bump the compression to a Flutter 12 or 15, that would be a decent start. From what I have seen the piston's flow well and they run to light of comp shims to make them ride soft for the 90% that barely goes offroad.
     

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