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Squeaky Penguin's (Trip Reports) Build Thread

Discussion in '1st Gen. Builds (1995-2004)' started by Squeaky Penguin, Feb 3, 2013.

  1. May 19, 2024 at 4:03 PM
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    Squeaky Penguin

    Squeaky Penguin [OP] Nothing Ventured, Nothing Gained

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    I think a new set of leafs might be in order. And an anti-wrap bar, although I'm a little worried about welding that to the stock housing. Might need to see about a stock replacement diamond.

    https://youtu.be/S5hh6_uCUg8?si=4B-JGwC5DfiE-eBG
     
  2. May 19, 2024 at 9:42 PM
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    betterbuckleup

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    Makes me wonder how much wrap a stock leaf pack has on an unmolested truck. also the diamond housing is nice peace of mine. Otherwise you could just plate or sleeve where you're mounting to the OEM housing for an anti-wrap bar.
     
  3. May 19, 2024 at 10:57 PM
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    Blackdawg

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  4. May 20, 2024 at 9:43 AM
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    Reh5108

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    Cut a pipe in half similar to how I did my leaf perches if you are worried. I don't think it's needed though.
     
  5. May 22, 2024 at 9:58 AM
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    Squeaky Penguin

    Squeaky Penguin [OP] Nothing Ventured, Nothing Gained

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    A new set of J59s and an anti-wrap kit from Ruff Stuff are en route. Also have a new flywheel to put in to replace the Exedy one that's still causing me intermittent issues. :annoyed: Thought I was done working on this shitbox for the year! :rolleyes:

    No surprise, but I've not been able to get ahold of Diamond. I'll just weld it up to the stock housing and see how it works.

    I'll have to do some reading on how to setup the anti-wrap bar. Planning on pulling the new leaf pack apart and cycling everything anyways.
     
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  6. May 22, 2024 at 10:53 AM
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    Snowy

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    Zero surprise about not hearing from Diamond. I love the idea of their stuff, and have their keyed arms but it was a slow process.

    I bet you're spring wrapping as much as stock (or any other leaf pack for that matter) and a new leaf pack probably won't help with that specifically. Anti-wrap bar is the only way to control the axle movement.

    Do what @Reh5108 said and cut some tube in half to plate the stock housing. I had issues with the stock one tearing on my truck.
     
  7. May 22, 2024 at 10:59 AM
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    Squeaky Penguin

    Squeaky Penguin [OP] Nothing Ventured, Nothing Gained

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    I got my current leafs from @TMFF, and he said they're pushing 20 years old, so I assume the new springs will help quite a bit. :notsure:

    Watching it go up a super steep ledge in double low got me worried! I think the rear ujoint must have been at a 30+degree angle. :eek:
     
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  8. May 22, 2024 at 11:06 AM
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    Snowy

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    They may help some but I definitely think most folks would be shocked to see how much an axle wraps on leaves that aren't HD truck style springs. Even on a new spring pack, the anti-wrap makes a huge difference for me.

    I actually have a working theory that spring wrap actually helps keep R&P's together on old Toyota's under shock loading since it acts like a big rubber band in the drivetrain compared to linked setups with no deflection.
     
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  9. May 22, 2024 at 11:12 AM
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    Squeaky Penguin

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    Interesting. Hopefully I don't start blowing up rear diffs.
     
  10. May 22, 2024 at 11:24 AM
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    Deathbysnusnu

    Deathbysnusnu Work is just a daily detour to happy hour.

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    You should know by now that when you make one component stronger, something downstream will eventually let you know how it feels about it. :D
     
  11. May 22, 2024 at 11:29 AM
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    Squeaky Penguin

    Squeaky Penguin [OP] Nothing Ventured, Nothing Gained

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    I definitely know that.

    I just assumed that the axle wrap and related hopping would be worse from the diff.
     
  12. May 22, 2024 at 11:46 AM
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    Harder on u-joints for sure but the diff appreciates the cushion.

    There's some math to getting the anti-squat % right on leaves but I don't remember what that math is at the moment. Too much AS and the rear will actually lift under load, which isn't good. I went with make the bar long and have good vertical separation on the axle and its fine. Leaves are messy trying to find instant centers and whatnot.
     
  13. May 22, 2024 at 11:46 AM
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    The only way to get ahold of them is via email. Only time I talked on the phone with them was when I was placing the order and giving them the cc info lol
     
  14. May 22, 2024 at 1:48 PM
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    Know where I can read up on the anti-wrap bar geo and setup?

    Yeah, phone went straight to VM saying to email. Email has been a week with no response.
     
  15. May 22, 2024 at 4:03 PM
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    It’s been a long time since I’ve been down that rabbit hole so I’ve got no good direct reading. I’d cruise around old Pirate threads that are leaf spring heavy on tech. Race Dezert probably has some good info too. Irate4x4 may have some stuff too but it’s more link tech heavy.
     
  16. May 27, 2024 at 9:52 PM
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  17. May 27, 2024 at 10:37 PM
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    Here's where the traction bar started.

    You gotta wade through an axle build, raising the fuel tank, I think mounting the rear winch, doing Chevy 63s... and a bunch of other crap that was all going on at the same time. :rofl:
     
  18. May 31, 2024 at 9:31 AM
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    Squeaky Penguin [OP] Nothing Ventured, Nothing Gained

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    Gotta love doing very labor-intensive jobs twice. Hopefully the Luk doesn't give me any issues like the Exedy.

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  19. May 31, 2024 at 9:49 AM
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    Lmao... A week? Try 6 months... While I was, literally, asking him how I should send him 1200 bucks.

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    I heard nothing from him after that email. Even with multiple follow up attempts after the lower email.

    I made it to Hammers... ONLY because Dutchman axles is awesome, and they made me a set in about a week, then shipped them overnight.



    Dude straight up ghosted even after I told him I had a deadline (a realistic deadline that would even work for him).

    At least he didn't Pelrybuilt me and ghost me AFTER he had my money :rofl:

    But seriously... dude is a tool bag.
     
  20. May 31, 2024 at 9:50 AM
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    Wishbone Runner Because 4R

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    Damn, so it was doing exactly what you thought. Is that old different dimensions somehow? Or was it not engaging the starter correctly and not plunging into the teeth?
     

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