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Starting my SAS tomorrow on my 97 :)

Discussion in 'Solid Axle Suspension' started by im gooby, Oct 28, 2013.

  1. Nov 7, 2013 at 5:58 PM
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    im gooby

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    2" shackles in rear, Bilstein 5100's up front, Bilsetin 5165's 14" travel in the rear,35" MTR's, complete stereo, added power windows and power locks, blue dash lights and cluster lights, debadged.
    Gonna let the 35's burn off first haha. the thought was "were gonna have it apart anyway, lets do it once the right way" lol
     
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  2. Nov 7, 2013 at 6:24 PM
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    NwiTACO

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    Yup that's the right way.
     
  3. Nov 7, 2013 at 6:33 PM
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    2" shackles in rear, Bilstein 5100's up front, Bilsetin 5165's 14" travel in the rear,35" MTR's, complete stereo, added power windows and power locks, blue dash lights and cluster lights, debadged.
    Can't tell if sarcasm or not-_-

    But that's what I'm aiming for haha
     
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  4. Dec 1, 2013 at 1:49 PM
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    2" shackles in rear, Bilstein 5100's up front, Bilsetin 5165's 14" travel in the rear,35" MTR's, complete stereo, added power windows and power locks, blue dash lights and cluster lights, debadged.
    Still waiting for parts. Update on the list:
    $1500 for axles
    $2000 for labour/parts to install
    $1050 for 12" King dual rate coilovers
    $2742.75 at marlin crawler - 3rd rebuilds & Tcase
    $2238.96 at LowRangeOffroad - Longs/Rear axle shafts and birf seal kit, stabilizer/tie rod, spartan
    $1186.43 - ARB 8" Locker for the front
    $131.12 - Hitch receiver winch mount
    $250 - 9500# Champion Winch(for the rear)
    $1600(don't remember exact price, waiting for email) - Allpro APEX Front bumper & TJM 9000# Stealth winch
    $850 - FJ80 wheel hubs, new rotors, new calipers & spindles
    $146.95 - CKMA12 ARB Air Compressor (Early xmas present, family member paid $200 of it)

    Chilling at $13,750 so far.

    Needed:
    Endless supply of $$$
     
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  5. Dec 3, 2013 at 4:08 PM
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    Supra TT Solid Axle FTMFW!!

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    SAS.. Need I say more.
    [​IMG]
     
  6. Dec 3, 2013 at 4:17 PM
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    YotaOverAll

    YotaOverAll Run it

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    Holy tits, Pass the popcorn
     
  7. Dec 3, 2013 at 6:50 PM
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    Lol well so much for the budget sas lmao as always never goes like we all wanted
     
  8. Dec 3, 2013 at 8:01 PM
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    As I've read on anyone else's SAS build page, always prepare to double the budget. I was prepared for it. Just tried to spend the money the best ways I could on this build :)
     
  9. Dec 3, 2013 at 8:04 PM
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    I am excite!
     
  10. Dec 4, 2013 at 6:46 AM
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    Apparently reading comprehension escaped me that day.

    Waiting on parts is the hardest part of building.

    I'm waiting on my new welding machine now.
     
  11. Dec 4, 2013 at 6:55 AM
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    It definitely is. Got my air locker now, order from lowrange is here on Monday, cradle for rear winch is here tomorrow. Still waiting on marlin crawler and AllPro.
     
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  12. Dec 4, 2013 at 7:26 AM
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    too bad you went with the all poo though would have been cooler if you contacted brute or elite, they make nifty bumpers for first gens..
     
  13. Dec 4, 2013 at 7:34 AM
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    I think he wants them sometime this decade, seriously. Nice product, but way, way too long of a lead time for something as simple as a bumper.
     
  14. Dec 4, 2013 at 7:42 AM
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    true, don't forget one man shows vs corp business...
     
  15. Dec 4, 2013 at 8:13 AM
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    I know it is a lot of fun to build your own custom swap, but would it not have been cheaper to buy the full sas kit from all pro?
     
  16. Dec 4, 2013 at 8:39 AM
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    There kit isn't "cheap" and not exactly ideal either. Its basically the equivalent of a short arm kit for a jeep when you're done. Its the "old school" geometry basically.


    Now-a-days when people swap, you run the longest links possibly (within reason) because the geometry works out much cleaner, with less pinion angle change as well.


    the best option will always be a custom setup for the end user, however there are kits available for those who don't want to tackle the hurdles of a custom setup.
     
  17. Dec 4, 2013 at 4:13 PM
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    Some time in the unforseeable, distant future, i will be building my own custom plate bumper with the help of Chris, my fab guy. With him running, owning and servicing tow trucks as well as customer vehicles to repair, he is ridiculously busy this time of year. The only reason hes doing my truck during this season is because it is borderline unsafe to drive. Needs all 4 ball joints, 2 outer tie rods, rack and pinion is pretty well shot as well as the power steering pump. I've been adding fluid every other day for about a month now haha. Oh and to top it off the wheel bearings are shot and i shattered the drivers side front axle about 4 weeks ago. Lots of fun driving it seeing as its my only vehicle...-___-

    TL;DR, Custom bumper in the future, and the AllPro will go on my dad's 03DC PreRunner.
     
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  18. Dec 4, 2013 at 4:19 PM
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    The pile so far:D
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    This is how I will be running power to the rear winch and have it still be removable. 1/O power cable running to the back, and ground to the frame with these welding cable connectors. battery ground to frame as well, and a splitter right off the battery so both winches can be used.
     
  19. Dec 4, 2013 at 4:26 PM
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    Cheaper? yes. But my setup is gaining me a much stronger axle/diff front AND rear
     
  20. Dec 7, 2013 at 9:34 PM
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    Today, I installed my ARB compressor. Prior to this, I had an ebay special, which worked but not quite as well as i would've liked.

    To start, this is where the old one was:
    [​IMG]

    Under the driver side rear seat, which has my sub on top of it
    [​IMG]

    The ebay special came atop this 1.5 gallon tank, which i removed and stuffed under the hood.
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    The air line leading to the tank comes out the front bumper by one of my led bars
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    Well, I played around with the ARB under the seat, and came to realize that it wasnt going to end up there. So I sat in the back seat, looked around and scratched my head a little, trying to figure out where i could mount it in the cab, but hidden away as to not take up usable space. I then looked at the drivers side rear speaker, which i had removed when i bought the truck as well as the passenger side(When I installed my stereo, I was going for quality, not loud, which i have anyways with just the two speakers).
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    Which led to this:
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    And then this:
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    So I drilled a couple holes, using the supplied mounting bracket, and a couple brackets my dad had at his shop(He is the lead install at Futureshop, so i get to work on my small jobs in the warm bay) and came up with something like this:
    [​IMG]

    And when mounted, the compressor looked like this:
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    Fast forward, and it ended up like this. Easy access via the removable speaker grille:
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    And ended up looking like this when all said and done:
    [​IMG]

    And here's a few pics of the wiring:
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    (I forgot to snap a pic, but the air line is covered in loom where it goes through this hole that i had to cut)
    The black wire here is for my backup cam, nothing to do with the air system)
    [​IMG]
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    Power was a breeze to run as i went to the capacitor in my sound system:
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    And still plenty of ventilation:
    [​IMG]

    And that's how my day went. Still have to figure out where I'm mounting the switches, but the hard part is done:) To my knowledge, nobody else has mounted their compressor in this location, but i also havent done a whole lot of research on that bit.

    When I eventually buy a new cab for this truck(my buddy has one sitting in his yard, no rust and 1 small dent) I may relocate both my amplifiers and capacitor to the passenger side same spot as the compressor.
     
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