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starting problem

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by VTDave, Jul 29, 2009.

  1. Jul 29, 2009 at 6:59 AM
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    VTDave

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    Help me figure out what I did to my truck. On Sunday I hauled some firewood a few hundred yards in the woods, washed the truck thoroughly, and repainted the frame with Rustoleum black to keep the rust off this winter (spray paint).

    This morning I get back in the truck for the first time since Sunday. I turn the key and nothing happens. No cranking. I ASSume it's the battery and hook-up a booster. Still no cranking. All the accessories (lights, stereo, blower fan) work as normal. Guess it's not the battery.

    I had to run (literally run, not drive) to work today and didn't have time to get further into the diagnostics. When I get home tonight, where should I start looking?

    A couple of theories/questions:

    1. Are there any sensors I could have accidentally gotten wet when washing the underbody or gotten a little spray paint on that would kill the start process?

    2. Obviously, I'll check connections to the starter

    3. What sensors are required to report to the ECU/PCM before cranking can begin?

    Thanks,
    Dave
     
  2. Jul 29, 2009 at 7:04 AM
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    98tacoma27

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    Did you try jumping it with another vehicle? Boostpaks don't always work. Try charging the battery.
     
  3. Jul 29, 2009 at 7:08 AM
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    nad mmmm tacos!

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    I wouldnt assume that its the battery as all his other electronics are working, I would look over everything that got painted and make sure there wasnt anything that shouldnt have been. Also try tapping the starter with something to c if it makes it start, it could be going defective, but I havent heard of that happening to anyone yet.
     
  4. Jul 29, 2009 at 7:19 AM
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    The electronics can still function on a low battery. It may also be a fuse.
     
  5. Jul 29, 2009 at 7:20 AM
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    yeah thats true but usually you would hear a tick when trying to start it wouldnt you? Im not the best person to be giving advise i guess lol Im usually the one asking for it.
     
  6. Jul 29, 2009 at 7:21 AM
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    I'll try that when my wife gets home with her car. The Boosterpak worked the 1 time I needed it, so once again I ASSumed it was working this morning. Always good to check, though.
     
  7. Jul 29, 2009 at 7:24 AM
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    Sometimes you have a "tick", sometimes you don't. It all depends on the battery's charge.

    I recently had the same issue on my pontiac. Everything electrical worked (no tick when starting) but the battery was low. It wouldn't even start with the charger set to the 100 amp start setting. I had to jump it with the Tundy.
     
  8. Jul 29, 2009 at 7:26 AM
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    So, what stuff could I have accidentally sprayed with paint that would prevent starting? Example: let's say I got some overspray on an 02 sensor. That wouldn't prevent starting. Maybe it would throw a code.
     
  9. Jul 29, 2009 at 7:29 AM
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    That wouldn't do anything. The sensor part is inside the exhaust. They are well sealed sensors. I don't think anything you could have sprayed with paint on the frame would effect starting.

    How did you clean the frame? Spray it with a hose?
     
  10. Jul 29, 2009 at 7:33 AM
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    I scrubbed the frame by hand with soap and water, and then used a hose sprayer for rinsing.

    Everyone may be right that it's just the battery (I'll found out tonight), but the fact that it came right after the rinsing and painting got me thinking it could be more complicated. So, I wanted to be prepared to think about other causes in addition to the battery.
     
  11. Jul 29, 2009 at 7:35 AM
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    Check the fuses also. You may have shorted the IGN when you rinsed close to the starter.
     
  12. Jul 29, 2009 at 7:39 AM
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    what's year is your truck? If every accessories are working,and you have the juice(light up,head light,stereo)are working normal
    Here the bad news:

    1/ it's could be your distributor(won't spark up)
    2/ Your ECU is fried.

    It's happens to me a while back,everything working fine.I pulled in the Garage. I need to get out to get some stuff couldn't start. Battery still good. Haul it to the Stealer(Don't do what I did) It's was the ECU, cost me about 2 weeks of my paycheck. I hope your is not that serious.Good luck
     
  13. Jul 29, 2009 at 7:40 AM
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    It's an 05. It has coil packs, no distributor.
     
  14. Jul 29, 2009 at 7:41 AM
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    Ok,my bad. I got 97:)
     
  15. Jul 29, 2009 at 7:46 AM
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    When you painted your frame, you may have painted over the ground. To check, when you boost you truck, use the battery for a ground. If it starts, your ground is good. If is does not start, switch the ground to the engine or frame. If it starts now, you ground is dirty.

    Good luck
     
  16. Jul 29, 2009 at 7:56 AM
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    Thanks everyone. When I get home, I will try:

    1. Jump start with a car
    2. Check fuses
    3. Check grounds
    4. Hope the list is done by #3.

    I'll report back.
     
  17. Jul 29, 2009 at 8:20 AM
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    Mine clicked last night as well. I really don't get how all my problems appear on here from someone else right as I have them! At least it started on second try, no problems since.

    I will second one thing though, the MOST LIKELY is your starter, its always subject to the weather. If it doesn't start, bang the starter with a hammer or maul, something big, try it twice at least. Sometimes you'll knock some shit loose and allow the brushes to make better contact.



    Do your lights dim when you turn this key? If they do, your starter is working :thumbsup: Find the problem somewhere else, probably the battery.
     
  18. Jul 29, 2009 at 8:22 AM
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    It's your u-bolts. They need torqued to 75#.
     
  19. Jul 29, 2009 at 8:45 AM
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    haha, I believe it very possibly could be my muffler bearing too. ;)
     
  20. Jul 29, 2009 at 8:51 AM
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    Check the battery voltage first. Then go from there.
     
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