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Stock Tire in Snow?

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016+)' started by wxm8562, Dec 15, 2016.

  1. Dec 15, 2016 at 8:54 AM
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    wxm8562

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    Anyone driving a Sport with the stock Toyo Open Country A30 tire in a lot of snow yet?

    I just drove mine on the expressway in a pretty good amount of snow and they made me fairly confident. It wasn't a blizzard or anything so I'm curious how they do in more harsh conditions. Going up/downhill in lots of snow.

    I was going to get Duratracs right away, but now I'm thinking the stockers are pretty good until I need to replace them.

    I'm headed to Vermont for a ski trip and I'm a little concerned at how well they'll preform if I really hit some bad weather in the mountains.
     
  2. Dec 15, 2016 at 9:06 AM
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  3. Dec 15, 2016 at 9:42 AM
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    Stock tires are decent all seasons and feel that way. I will go one season on them since they are fresh. Nothing like snow tires though.

    Duratracs are not snow tires and would be a waste if your intent was better snow traction. If you do anything, get a real set of snow tires.
     
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    I would argue that a true 'all season' doesn't exist, regardless of manuf. claims and snowflake embossments.

    There are 3 season tires, summer tires and winter tires. (speaking of primarily-used-on-pavement tires here)

    For snow/ice, absolutely correct.

    Worth the investment in a second set of wheels to make it happen if you have enough snow days where you commonly drive.
     
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    Just did some Toyo Open Country AT2 in LT265/75/16 so a 1" taller tire, much more aggressive looking, better for off road conditions, and a Load range C. The stock tire is "ok" for general conditions but I wanted something more robust for trails and snow/severe winter.
     
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    Yep. Softer rubber and siping designed for the winter season makes a world of difference. A lot of guys on here love their Duratracs for winter, but from my experience there is no AT that will compare to a proper winter tire.
     
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    I agree that the Duratracs won't be as good as a true snow tire, but they are significantly better in the snow than all season. I has Goodyear Wranglers that came on my Ram 1500 and they were terrible in the snow. I swapped them out for Duratracs and it made a world of difference. I would say the Duratracs are about as good as it gets below a true snow tire. I am going to put the Duratracs on my Tacoma at some point, but I'm wondering how people feel the stock tires perform in the snow as I was surprised that they were better than I thought they'd be. I am now thinking about keeping the stocks on and switching to the Duratacs only when I need new tires. I'm not considering a full snow tire at this point. It's either stocks until they wear out and then Duratracs, or Duratracs now.
     
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    Im heading to Mammoth next week on stock tires. Pray for me :fingerscrossed:
     
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    We just had 4 - 6 inches yesterday in Oregon (Portland area). I'm on stock tires and did not slip once going the speed limit. I took it easy around turns though and left plenty of room to stop.
     
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    I was also planning to replace the Toyo's right away, but have decided they work just fine. Much better than the goodyears on my ford. Might reconsider next winter when they have more than a 1000 miles of use.
     
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    Not really. Duratracs are great in the snow, and far better than stock tires. Not as good as a dedicated snow tire sure, but to say they are a waste and don't give better snow traction is not true. I just finished a few days up past Pemberton driving in nothing but snow with Duratracs...never slipped once. I'd say about 60% of the work trucks up at the project I'm on run those tires with no issues in the snow.
     
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    I'm going 20-22, will keep you posted on road conditions
     
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    Much appreciated, safe travels!
     
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    So I've only had to deal with the 2nd gen stock Bridgestones and they were terrible in literally everything.

    All of the AT's I've run I would say Cooper ATPs and Hankook ATMs were some of the best in snow and all rounders. However both seemed to wear out fast on me. Approx 40k miles on the two sets. Both have tons of sipping to help in rain, snow, and slush.

    I put Falken Wildpeak AT3w on the current truck and didn't like them in the snow, had poor cold traction along with snow traction. So I put on a studded set of Cooper M&S.

    No tire can hold a candle to a dedicated Snow tire for winter performance. The damn things are literally engineered for it. So there is no compromises for anything else.

    Its a big investment to shell out another $500 for tires. But it will stretch the amount of time you have to replace tires in the long run, you can go through basically anything now, plus they work better in the cold temperatures since they keep their grip. Makes it worth it to me.

    If the stockers work for you though I say go for it. Vermont typically doesn't plow unless it over a certain amount or after the storm. So back roads will be a little sketchy.
     
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    I have stock Hancook Dynapros on my SR 4x4. I wasn't sure how they would do. But I've driven about 100 miles in snow in the last week and haven't had any problems.
     
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    I put a set of Nokian Rotiva on my 08. Pretty good for an all season. With the new Ram, I plan to run the stock Wranglers till next fall. At that point I'll run Rotiva's or Falken Wildpeaks, or some other all season until the snow rating is gone, then use them as three seasons, and get a set of dedicated snows. The Wranglers have done well in the winter we've experienced so far, although we haven't had a significant dump of snow yet. Just a few inches. If they suck in heavier snow, the Taco is in the garage waiting to be tapped back into service.
     
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    I had toyo open country's on my previous vehicle(mazda tribute awd) and I also felt pretty confident for a season or two tops and I live in eastern Canada. However, with my new sport I opted for the OR wheel package instead of the sport wheel configuration. I also swapped the stock kevlars for firestone winterforce tires. They are pretty good but there are better. I put Cooper M&S on my wife's SUV and they are good also.
     
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    This is my second winter on the stock toyo open country here in western NY. Last year I made it through the winter and I tried again this year but I realize now they're terrible in a decent snow storm. I can go in 4 wheel drive but stopping is a challenge. ABS goes nuts. I just ordered steel 16" keystone wheels and 245/75 16 Firestone winterforce uv tires. I'm sure these will do much better.
     
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