Suburu Outback Wilderness vs 4Runner TRD

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  1. May 14, 2024 at 7:09 AM
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    I'm not sure but I think they may be the same. I find that five adults fit very comfortably in the wilderness. If you have three obese people then it's going to be tight. I did sleep in the back of my old wilderness for one night with my wife. I'm 5'10 she is 5'8 we are not overweight and slept well. 4Runner looks more roomy no doubt.
    I test drove an accent yesterday. That is the biggest suburu.
     
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    I work in a shop that specializes in Japanese cars. We see Toyotas and Hondas with 250k miles every day that have very little issues. We see Subarus and Nissans with 100k every day needing more serious repairs. I definitely feel for some people depending on how much they drive and how long they keep a vehicle the cost of gas in a gas guzzler could be cheaper to own than the repairs in a more fuel efficient car.
     
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    I'd go Honda Pilot or Sequioa, Pilot if you prefer the Subaru it's still a unibody. Sequioa if you want the 4R more interior room, and torquey ttV6.

    I prefer Honda's styling over Toyota, the new CRV is a good looking CUV.
     
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    The reliability thing is what I like the most about Toyotas. The engine and transmission in my taco have been great. and I have 240k miles. If I continue at my current pace I will reach 250k miles in 8 years on my next vehicle.

    The price of gas is high but specially in california. From what I see those that run CA are going to make it to where you cannot afford to drive a gas powered vehicle and ultimately where you cannot even purchase gasoline. They want to ban fossil fuels from existence. At the beginning of this year they banned all small horsepower engines and in 2035 that band goes towards all other gas powered vehicles. So perhaps there comes a point where longevity of a gas powered vehicle really isn't in my future.
     
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    Despite being partially owned by Toyota, Subaru quality is pretty disappointing.

    If you can get the most base base model without the turbo that might be a good value, but once you start adding features, the NA and turbo models blur together.

    I used to be a big proponent of Subarus, if you live someplace where it snows a lot and there’s lots of ice, that’s probably the only argument I’ll make for one at this point.

    If you’re a woman divorcing her husband and realizing that at age 50 she’s actually a lesbian and you want to open up a bakery in Vermont with your partner who looks like a middle-aged trucker named Bill, then I would totally recommend a Forester.
     
  7. May 14, 2024 at 10:36 AM
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    Did this happen to you bro? Sounds personal. Sorry if that's the case. I really appreciate your feedback though!
     
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    No, my first wife didn’t like being a mother so she totally ghosted me after six months, leaving me to raise my older daughter as a single dad.

    But with my Subaru history, I’ve had experience with two outbacks.

    The one that I bought in Colorado back in 2018 was solid, bulletproof, and cost me less than $24,000 out the door from Heuberger. They seriously are the best Subaru dealership in the country and it’s worth flying out to Colorado Springs to deal with them.

    My parents had a 2017 that they used for road trips up to BC Canada and for the Oregon and northern California winters which leaked oil from the head gasket and Subaru refused to do anything about it.
     
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    The outback wilderness was my favorite daily drivable vehicle I've ever owned. Absolutely wonderful vehicle. Decent gas mileage, super capable, especially in the winter time, and comes with great features and creature comforts. That being said if I had to choose which I believe had the best chance to make it to 200 thousand miles I choose the 4Runner (last gen, the new gen is too new to know how reliable they are) with zero hesitation.
     
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    Ask each dealer to let you have sex in the back seat of each one (either alone, with your partner, or even the salesman). Buy from the dealer who didn't let you.
     
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    My first car was a '98 Volvo xc70 wagon, then an '03 Forester, now a Taco... The lesbian trifecta is complete. Up here in NE, old fellas, IT guys and homesteading lesbians are most commonly behind the wheel of a Tacoma.
    Bought the Forester @168k after a HG job for $1250. Ran that puppy to 377k. Between the rust and transmission going it was time to retire.
    Only had to change plugs, oil, tires, and one battery in 10 years on that rig, beat the dog shit out of it, great car.
     
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  13. May 15, 2024 at 8:10 AM
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    I love me some Subaru because they are far more efficient in the types of conditions that I actually drive in: driving up snowy mountain passes, and driving on remote dirt roads and forest service trails. The Tacoma or 4Runner is only better for getting you that last mile to a remote camp site, and even then, I would often rather hike in than risk vehicle damage from large rocks and encroaching trees.

    I personally don't see the value in the "Wilderness" models. You can get practically the same ground clearance by going up one tire size in the standard models, with less of a MPG hit, and save yourself $5-6K.

    Edit to add: The Forester Wilderness is the most capable of the Wilderness models. It has the best angles and the best view. It also (at least currently) has manual, physical HVAC controls instead of the dreaded screen.

    Base Subaru Forester on the TFL torture course.

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    Oil issues are a Subaru feature. A tech once told me my ex’s Outback with the 2.5L had an “acceptable” amount of oil consumption. Pass.
     
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    You have to thoroughly lubricate the piston surfaces or they crack.
     
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    I’ve had Lots’O Subaru’s & still have one I looked for little bit, I went truck will probably buy used one later.

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    I'm with you on this one, regarding the Wilderness trims. To me it defeats the purpose of getting an Outback: you get worse gas mileage, possibly a worse ride, and it doesn't turn it into a real offroader.

    There is already a small gap between what an Outback can do, and what most people do with 4Runners. There is probably no measurable difference in capabilities between a regular Outback and Wilderness one.

    Since OP already has the Taco for "real" off roading, I'd go with another Outback if you liked it. And whatever trim you want, it's your car (hr Wilderness opinion above is just that, my opinion).
     

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