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Surefire VS EagleTac

Discussion in 'Off-Topic Discussion' started by A7XTaco, Dec 14, 2010.

  1. Dec 14, 2010 at 1:43 PM
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    A7XTaco

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    So I am about to invest in real flashlight. The original idea was a Surefire because, as we all know, they are about the best flashlights money can buy.

    Then I discovered this new company called EagleTac. Many similarities to Surefire such as, aircraft grade aluminum, they use the same anodized process and quality...


    So now I'm trying to decide between are the Surefire E2D LED Defender, and the EagleTac P20C2 MKII.



    I'm trying to weigh out the pros and cons of both.


    Surefire E2D LED Defender

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    Pros,

    1. Time tested and proved reliability
    2. Surefire unbeatable warranty.
    3. Strike Bezel.
    4. Two output settings, 5 Lumens and 200 Lumens(Tactical Runtime).
    5. Runtime of 2 hours at 200 Lumens(Tactical Runtime).
    6. Small size.
    7. Uses CR123 battery.


    Cons,

    1. Only 76 hours runtime at 5 Lumens
    2. No clear definition of 200 Lumens runtime(Tactical Runtime).
    3. No strobe feature
    4. No medium output for useful light and long runtime.
    5. Not customizable / field upgradeable.
    6. High price.



    EagleTac P20C2 MKII

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    Pros,

    1. Three output settings, 5, 60, and 300 Lumens (measured as Out Of Front Lumens. Actually 400 Lumens LED)

    2. 1.7 Hours at 300 Lumens(Tactical Runtime), 13 hours at 60 Lumens, 100+ hours at 5 lumens.

    3. Replaceable LED cartridge options for different types of light and brighter LED when developed.

    4. Strike Bezel.

    5. Field upgradeable/repairable. Reflector, LED Cartridge, O-rings.

    6. Almost 1.5 hours of full 300 lumens before brightness starts to drop.

    7. Strobe feature.

    8. Small size.

    9. Price. $85 cheaper than Surefire.

    10. Uses CR123 batteries.

    11. Comes with many out of box accessories.

    12. Lifetime defects warranty.

    13. Is getting great reviews.


    Cons,

    1. New company. No proven history.
    2. One year full warranty.
    3. Slightly larger than Surefire
    4. .............................
    5. .............................
    6. .............................




    See my problem?


    What do you guys/girls think?

    Can anybody speak for EagleTac?
     
  2. Dec 14, 2010 at 1:50 PM
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    BSPDX

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    I've always run Surefire lights as I have 3 of them... But, I would probably go out on a limb and try the Eagletac as the reviews are good as well as cheaper & seems to have more accessories & options out of the box. Good luck!
     
  3. Dec 14, 2010 at 3:49 PM
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    I am not a flashlight expert. But I have looked into them a bit. I would buy the EagleTac over the Surefire. In fact I plan on getting my self an EagleTac as soon as I have the extra funds available.
     
  4. Dec 14, 2010 at 4:28 PM
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    I'm glad to know I'm not the only person that has heard of them!

    Let us know what you think when you do.





    Anybody own one yet?
     
  5. Dec 14, 2010 at 5:08 PM
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    Fenix make some sweet lights too!!
     
  6. Dec 14, 2010 at 8:28 PM
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    So I broke down and bought the EagleTac P20C2 MKII with the CREE XP-G R5 COOL White LED.

    Caught it on sale for $58!

    We'll see whats it like when it arrives :D
     
  7. Dec 14, 2010 at 8:31 PM
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    I have always had surefire being in the military that is what they issue to use as weapon lights. I have bought 3 of them and have been happy but am very open to trying this new brand. Can't wait to hear what you think about it.
     
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    I would go with the Surefire. I have carried the E2E for 10 years, replaced the bulb three times. Hard to beat the brightness of the Xenon bulb. I have the LED head for the flash light but I prefer the brightness over the added time the LED offers. I only pay a buck and a half for batteries so I don't care how fast I burn through them.
     
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    Unfortunately for me, the battery life was the deciding factor. I work outdoors a lot, and I can't stop every hour and put new batteries in.

    The Eagletac will run ~13 hours at 60 lumens, that I can work with. When I do need it, I can bump her up to 300 lumens for short periods of time... Like blinding whatever I want to stay away.
     
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    Subbed. And Iv been looking at the Fenix PD31.
     
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    Flashlights are extremely situational/use limited.

    I'm in the military, and I run an Energizer Hard Case AAA. My personal needs may be different than yours. I work around vehicles a lot, so I need something that has a good runtime with good brightness, but can still withstand a drop from the top of a truck. I also got it for $15, and I get free batteries from work.

    By no means am I a cheap bastard though. I also own a Surefire G2LED, and probably a half dozen or so larger flashlights, with a couple more swivel neck style ones. I always want to have my options open.

    My vote is for $58 why the hell not try the EagleTac one. If it suits your needs, you just saved money. If you're tight on a budget, and it doesn't suit you. Start looking for sales on the surefires.

    I'll point you to where I picked up my surefire. http://www.warriorsandwonders.com/
    It's a Canadian company, but from what I researched at the time, they had some of the best prices available to me.
     
  14. Dec 24, 2010 at 11:37 AM
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    So I received my EagleTac yesterday. All in all I'm very pleased. Damn little thing is bright. The strobe feature works as to be expected... very disorienting.

    My only complaint is, you adjust the brightness between high and medium by loosening the head. Not a big deal, I just don't like that the head isn't locked tight when running at medium brightness.

    The real test will come when I can compare it side by side with a coworkers Surefire defender.

    Either way, if your not wanting to drop 150+ on a little flashlight, I'd say EagleTac is the way to go. It feels built solid, has more features, and cost less. Oh, and when they come out with a brighter more efficient LED, it will be a 30 second drop in replacement.

    Now I just have to come up with a non permanent flashlight mod for the taco.
     
  15. Dec 24, 2010 at 8:47 PM
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    I have a surefire and i don't use it just because the batteries are $$$. I use my inova t4, brighter and rechargeable. I am going to buy a rigid industries flashlight next.
     
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