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Suspension Question

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by doris_the_taco, Apr 13, 2020.

  1. Apr 13, 2020 at 10:22 PM
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    So if I did added some bilstein 5100s and set them at 1.5” with a 2.5” coil, would that give 4” lift? If not how does it work?
     
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    That's a terrible idea
     
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  3. Apr 13, 2020 at 10:31 PM
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    i’m just trying to figure out how it works
     
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    It doesn’t work. Lift should come from the coils or the shocks but not both. If you have lift springs the 5100s are supposed to be set at 0.
     
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    Shocks don't lift anything. Ever. Springs create lift.

    Only reason 5100's are used for 'lift' is they have choices of spring perch selection. Which compresses the spring, creating preload and resulting in lift. But it's still the spring doing the lifting.

    The purpose of shocks (dampers is a better name) is to control the springs oscillation.

    If you want a 4" suspension lift you'll have to do a drop bracket lift, which requires cutting out your front cross-member and seriously narrows your buyer market if you want to sell the vehicle.

    And if you are actually off-roading, not just building a poseur vehicle, that type lift does not add any ground clearance. In fact, the only thing that adds ground clearance to the lowest point of the vehicle (which are the axle lines) are taller tires.
     
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    Like already stated, set the bilsteins at 0 and deal with the fact that people are going to make fun of your 2.5" lift
     
  7. Apr 14, 2020 at 9:37 AM
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    Direct quote from Marie at Headstrong Offroad: "...the Bilsteins are adjustable by changing the notch setting up on the shock body. However by doing this with a lift coil, you compound lift. So instead of seeing around 0.85" (on the 2nd gen 5100's) or 0.65” (on the 3rd gen 5100's) of extra lift you may see an 1"+ more lift. Plus there are other issues at play here like potential coil bind issues. Also by adding additional preload you can affect the ride quality as well."

    I also think it's a terrible idea to add preload to a lift coil. Either adjust the perch setting with your stock coils, or set them at 0 and get a proper lift coil. An OME 887 coil will get you ~3". If you want more lift from this setup, you can look into a top plate spacer.
     
  8. Apr 14, 2020 at 3:15 PM
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    Is your truck 4X4 or Prerunner?
     
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    ... and why would they make fun?
     
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    Anything smaller than a 3" lift is considered a sign that an individual is lacking inches somewhere else.

    This is why the minimum lift is 4" and above
     
  11. Apr 14, 2020 at 6:01 PM
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    That’s bullshit.
     
  12. Apr 14, 2020 at 6:02 PM
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    Yeup, sarcasm doesn't translate well over the internet
     
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    I’m dying right now. I’ve heard the opposite. The higher the truck the shorter they are.....or the shorter they are
     
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