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suspension vs re gear

Discussion in 'Suspension' started by Jukeboxx13, May 2, 2020.

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which upgrade

  1. 6112/5160

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  2. nitro 5.29 re gear

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  1. May 2, 2020 at 12:45 AM
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    Jukeboxx13

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    I can only do one mod for around 2k. The bilstein 6112/5160s are calling my name but I also want a re gear to 5.29s. please help

    I'm a weekend warrior btw so still only a rci aluminium front skid.
     
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  2. May 2, 2020 at 12:51 AM
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    Well list reasons why do you need suspension and why you need regear
     
  3. May 2, 2020 at 12:51 AM
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    I would go with the suspension and get out there an explore. Get some suspension and sliders, will get you more bang for the buck. Gearing is awesome but unless your super heavy 5.29 is going to be not a good dailly setup. 4.88 for 3rd gens for weekend warrior not too heavy. But you will get more out of the other stuff out of the gate.

    Have fun!
     
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  4. May 2, 2020 at 12:53 AM
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    yea suspension and sliders is way cheaper to diy as well. thanks
     
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  5. May 2, 2020 at 12:55 AM
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    re gear cause the gear hunting annoys the piss out of me

    suspension so off roading wont be so bouncy and harsh for the wife and kids

    or basically selfish re gear vs thoughtful better suspension for the family trips
    lol
     
  6. May 2, 2020 at 12:57 AM
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    def re gear at some point but you will get way more out of sliders, suspension, better tires, skids bumpers. by time you get all that the 5.29's may make more sense. But if/when the truck is super heavy or rolling on some 35's. Also don't forget to air down when you go offroad that will solve a lot of your problems of rough/bouncy rides.
     
  7. May 2, 2020 at 1:00 AM
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    I would say just keep hitting that ect button, air down, and slow down offroad would alleviate both of those problems.

    Regearing and suspension with a budget of 2k shouldn't be taken lightly. You should sit down and brainstorm about the final form your Tacoma will take. Will it be big, heavy, armored, and 12mpg? Or do you want to keep it light and nimble as your daily?

    So consider what you will use your truck for, not just it's offroad use but it's use as a daily vehicle, a family vehicle, and a reliable vehicle.
     
  8. May 2, 2020 at 1:01 AM
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    damn that's why it's so bouncy then. my tires were at 30 psi. lol thanks for the tips and raider nation all day
     
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    yah 30psi will def give you a rough ride. drop it to 20-25 and will be night and day. Get suspension if you need more clearance. Better tires for better grip and skids/sliders if you start getting more technical.

    But as @whatstcp said whats the end goal or at least near term. I def went all in at one point. Had it as a the nimble daily for awhile but things changed. If you even have an idea will help plan better.
     
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  10. May 2, 2020 at 1:35 AM
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    just drop it down like @nudavinci64 said next time you head out. What you can do for now is get yourself some relatively inexpensive offroading gear like a quick tire deflator like the ARB one and maybe a viair 88p air compressor to help you air back up. Also helps to inflate tubes to go tubing down the river, or basketballs/footballs for the kids.

    That being said, just keep researching suspension and regear and start brainstorming about the pros and cons of each item. So for regear, think long term considerations like potential upgrades in tire sizes and also increasing weight of the truck due to armor, towing, or just camping gear in the bed. Also how do you usually drive it in terms of speed and distance? Screaming down the highway at 3,000 rpm won't be much fun. Also for the regear, do you have any thoughts of maybe installing a front locker to help you offroad? Have you considered offroading to the point where you might need an extra locker? If so, might be worth it to hold off on it till you can save a bit more for that.

    For suspension, consider your planned offroad use. Do you want something that won't overheat, or something that gives you a bit more axle flex on the trail? How do you feel about maintenance? Would you rather toss and replace or rebuild? If you plan to rebuild, do you have someone near you that has the ability to do so consistently so you don't have to ship them out? Do you want something that can handle weight and if so, can you handle a rough ride when the bed is empty?

    Just think about the options out there, the possible pros and cons, and whether it's more of a want than a need. No point in getting a front locker if you never use it. No point in regearing to 4.88 if later on you have 35s and steel armor everywhere and 5.29 would be better.

    So on and so forth. But just keep asking questions and reading threads. It honestly helps to post on Tacomaworld because you get some ideas or criticism you never thought of. So keep firing away and we'll get your truck built in no time.
     
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  11. May 2, 2020 at 2:40 AM
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    looked up that viair 88p and just bought it.

    I probably never go bigger then 33s and have crazy armor, but thats still way down the road so I'll do the suspension and sliders first. thanks for all the info.

    aldo do you think ill need new bumpstops with the bilsteins and what about the ecgs bushing?
     
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  12. May 2, 2020 at 6:36 AM
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    I'm a big fan of the Viair 88p, there are other good choices but the viair is one of the more well known. I buy them regularly as gifts for dudes in the family.

    bumpstops always help since stock is pretty limited in travel you'll hit them pretty quick. However, I think it'd be better if you hold off on bumpstops and just go with shocks/coilovers first that way it spaces out how much you spend and also gives you a chance to appreciate each component and what they provide for performance. "Wow those shocks are pretty good offroad", and then later on "wow those bumpstops prevented that harsh bottom out"

    That being said, for bumpstops there are two popular choices, Wheeler's and durobumps. I run wheelers and enjoy them thoroughly but have also heard great things about durobumps. Definitely look at both. Screenshot of Accutune tech article below talking about how foam urethane bumpstops are a good choice just for evidence as well.

    Screenshot 2020-05-02 at 06.20.22.jpg

    ECGS bushing can be a maybe depending on how high you go and sometimes people need it right away or not. I think it's best just to get it done while you're installing suspension components just because you're already 75% of the way there. That's just IMO and also have to consider how much time do you have, skill level, and if you're up for it. I would watch a ECGS video on youtube one time from start to finish to see if it's something you can handle. There are two great videos linked below

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJ4_7G12Esw
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9W31KGy6k0
     
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  13. May 2, 2020 at 11:03 AM
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    ol

    yea I think I'll have the bushing installed by a shop and possibly the suspension to. as for the bumpstops I'll hold off then since I only want to lift about 1.5-2 inches. thanks for the links
     

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