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Swapping Switches

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by ljh824, Apr 4, 2022.

  1. Apr 4, 2022 at 6:53 AM
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    So, I want to better organize my switches. One thing I'd like to do, is move a few switches from the lower center console, over to the left side, and vice versa. My question is, is there enough cable slack behind these switches to do that? I'm guessing to go over the steering column (or under), it would be about two feet or so. Wondering if I would need some sort of cable extension to do this.

    I want to relocate all my external light switches the center, while moving the BSM switch and a few others to the left. Thanks Team.
     
  2. Apr 4, 2022 at 7:29 AM
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    Do we have an emoji for a can of worms?
     
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    I'm missing it. Is this a controversial topic or something?
     
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    Nope just shit posting for fun.. :sorry:


    Also it moves your post to the top so it gets more views and maybe more chance of an answer... so win win in my books:thumbsup:
     
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    Haha. I wasn't trying to be a dick. I honestly miss some things on here and want in on the joke. I'm also the one that asks "do they rub?" all the time.
     
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    haha, not really, just more of a can of worms/ball of wax issues. To answer your question no there isn’t four feet of harness bundled up behind each switch.

    Moving them side to side is going to require a lot of splicing extensions into existing harnesses, considering that the back of each switch is probably 5 or 6 18awg wires - how good are you with a soldering iron?

    Also check your switch sizes, there are two different sizes there- the center squares and the side rectangles- not interchangeable.

    You don’t see it done often because it isn’t worth the trouble to most of us.
     
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    Well I certainly hope you don't have rubbing issues after relocating your switches:fingerscrossed::annoyed::eek::D
     
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    Though the same thing these wheels look DEEP
     
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    That's what I was thinking. Maybe the juice wasnt worth the squeeze. Just trying to group "like" switches together I guess. No worries. I'm between mods so maybe i'm just looking for something to do. haha
     
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    Why not do something like a Switch Pro install? Can come out looking really good, and no need to move switches anywhere.
     
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    Ultimately, I think that's what I'll have to do. I only have my front LED bar, and my scene pods on my rack for now, but plan on adding some more later. Battery is getting a little crowded too.
     
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    There isn't enough slack; we know that for certain. Depending on exactly which switches you want to move, we (@Puppypunter, @daveeasa, or I) can piece some extensions together. Just a heads up that not all switches can be easily extended as there are a lot of connections that are designed to be wire-to-board -- meaning we can't really source an inexpensive mating connector that will cover all of the pins securely. There's options, though.
     
  17. Apr 4, 2022 at 9:59 AM
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    Thanks for that info. I bother Dave too much with my electrical problems, which is why i wanted to ask the question. Dave always has a solution.
     
  18. Apr 4, 2022 at 10:40 AM
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    Hi Lou!

    I wanted to do this myself as well, the inverter seemed better in the center and maybe even the puddle too, meanwhile the useless Qi switch might be better off tossed in a river.

    My research leads me to the conclusion that the juice isn't worth the squeeze on moving, though ECT and Auto Headlights are the ones which have easy extension harnesses (there's a guy with a storefront who builds them, or Johnny, Kyle and I can too but my fat fingers don't love those tiny terminals.) I have no ECT and no auto, being a 2016 MT.

    Quick question though, do you have an MESO LSP-7W or LSP-8W? Assuming your truck has the rear window switch in the lower switch panel? That's something I'm on the slow boat but hoping to finally get done, plus the upgraded charging pad (no need for a switch) and I should have a fair number of open spots in the center.

    Driver-side-wise, you have options out the ears between meso, gild, sdqh, etc and for AT you likely can regain that wasted spot for the tall which we MT need for clutch start / cancel and go all small there.

    I can also redo the switch/switches you use for that light bar to run off the center if you like.

    Maybe a couple of quick photos of your left side and lower switch panels and we can brainstorm suggestions?
     
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    Thanks Dave. I have the stock setup. All my switches in the center console are full. On the left, I have just one small switch vacant. I just wanted to consolidate things better. Like you, I have no use for the Qi switch either. I guess I could "delete" that for now. We'll see. just weighing options before I commit to it. Always appreciate your advice.
     
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    My advice - buy an LSP-7W or LSP-8W next time you can.

    I have 3 lower switch trim panels so if you aren't totally OCD on interior plastic I could try to do the cut and glue job for you and ship you one of the two panels I'm not using. I ran the 2nd one through the dishwasher so it's pretty clean but I think there is a dull scratch or two.

    Of course the install requires a bunch of trim removal which isn't super duper fun but it'd be a one time deal.

    I think the hard part of the glue job is applying pressure. I got lucky with my overhead console but for the lsp I probably need a compressive force with toggle bolts and spacers.
     

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