Sway bar disconnect?

wouldn't hurt to swap out for some extended brake likes...

this guy was selling some
http://www.tacomaworld.com/forum/gr...-deal-steel-braded-brake-lines-group-buy.html

all-pro makes some

check your local off-road shops, they may also have some as well

it's a good security to have knowing your lines won't pull out on full droop



i have some on my truck with a 3" lift and i know have plenty of room for full droop

 

thanks for the links.

i know it wouldnt hurt, but they're either long enough or they're not.

once the sway bars are off, it's the shocks that limit travel... so lots of "lifts" have the exact same travel as a stock truck.

 

are you sitting at a 3" lift with those kings? looks like it from your sig...i ran a 3" lift with stock lines for almost 5 years without any issue...i moved to the new lines mainly for the stainless steel and kevlar structure of the lines giving me more solid braking and the added security knowing that i am getting into more difficult trails than i have been in recent years

so yes i think they are long enough with a 3" lift, it's close though on full droop, and with the swaybars disconnected, your front will see more droop than normal

 

2.5" out of the box. During your 5 year stretch was your sway bar off?

NYCO do you agree that when considering droop (with sway bars off), then all that matters is shocks?

The amount of lift (i.e., springs) is irrelevant. It's shock length?

 

i only recently had my sway bar off, and that was around the same time that i put my extended lines in...

when you add a lift, you also add longer shocks and larger springs, so a lift will also increase your droop because you have the longer shocks and the larger springs which push the shocks out further...

i would think that the lift would be caused by the springs (longer/stiffer springs) which lifts the truck up more, and longer shocks are required due to the amount of travel being increased

and the amount of droop would be limited in the end by the amount of travel your shocks have...if the shocks only have a 10" travel, your droop will be limited to 10" less the ride level travel..and the longer your shocks, the more available droop you have...

so long story, i'd say you're correct that the amount of droop is dictated by the shock length in the end...i wouldn't say that all that matters is the shocks, but i'd say that's the biggest driving factor in the amount of droop that you can have...the size of your UCA and LCA are also factors

 

thanks. are OME shocks actually longer than stock bilsteins?

 

not positive, but i would think so?

front:
OME N140S open length 21.3 " closed length 15.9"

rear:
OME N182 open length 23.94 " closed length 13.86"

idk what stock billys are

 

hmmm Kings are 16.8" and 21.7" in front

rears are 15.8" and 24.2"

 

updated my post with rear specs too..

still don't know what the model shocks come stock, so idk the stock specs

 

if you jack up both front tires off the ground thats your droop. taking off the sway bar doesnt add any more...

 

i had mine off on this truck for 9k miles. I just put it back on bc I went back to all stock

 

correct, but going back to this example..being able to stuff one side more and having the truck sit flat while doing so, you are using more of your available droop...

so going over the same obstacle with and without a sway bar, your drooping side will reach down further without a swaybar due to one side stuffing more and your truck remaining flatter to the ground

 

another thing to take into account is without the swaybar, the tire being stuffed more is lowering the truck's height from the ground down which may not effect the droop that much anyway

 

So sway bars only limit up-travel and not down-travel?

 

your front will have plenty of room with the brake ines. i have extended travel coilovers and plenty of room to spare at full drop

turns out the loose end of the sway bar lines up perfectly with the cv boot....no bueno

sway bars don't limit travel in either direction, the suspension can still fully compress and extend, both sides just have to do it at the same time.



here's a picture at full drop (front wheel was spinning), no sway bar, stock brake lines. same truck as posted before.

 

im just saying sway bar has no effect on brake line length(skipped that part of my last post). if it reaches with both wheels off the ground with sway bar attached, taking off the sway bar will make no difference

 

Am I being dense or what? If the sway bars don't limit travel then why the hell would taking them off help with off-roading?

I'm talking about a situation with flex...with sway bars off one tire can travel down further and the other can travel up further, right?

Or if I did two trials, one with and one without sway bars, and jacked up one side of the truck with a jack...then without the sway bar the frame would be farther off the ground when the tire lifted. Right???

 

the sway bar links the two sides of your suspension. it moves freely, and allows full compression and drop, but only if both tires do it as the same time. it prevents one side from going up and the other going down simulteneously.

in a nutshell, they don't limit travel, they limit travel in the opposite direction of the other side.

 

So they limit flex! Who cares about both tires going up at the same time?

Maybe it's because I'm into trails not desert running...

In my mind if they limit flex then they limit travel.

Guess it's semantics?

 

Maybe it's best to think in terms of TOTAL wheel travel...that is the distance between the position of one wheel and the other. The maximum would be when one wheel is at full droop and the other is at full compression. I guess that would be the measurement for flex.

The sway bar limits TOTAL wheel travel.