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Taco Tabs Front Alignment Kit

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by PMK, Mar 21, 2020.

  1. Oct 16, 2020 at 7:41 AM
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    True, but not that much. If he has to move both cams inboard one setting, the caster should stay pretty much the same as it is now, around 2.7. So he'll gain caster by bringing the front in and then lose it by bringing the back in. How much each change translates to degrees, I'm not sure and I'm curious to see what the alignment sheets say.
     
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  2. Oct 16, 2020 at 7:46 AM
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    After I wrote that, it occurred to me that moving both tabs the same amount should keep the caster the same. I just really like having the left caster less than the right because the truck will pull to the side with the least caster and the most camber.
     
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  3. Oct 16, 2020 at 7:46 AM
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    Definitely have taco lean issues. The left/driver side is about 1" lower than the right side, the last time I checked. I could crank up the driver side coilover, but I was trying to avoid having a huge discrepancy between the two coilovers "preload".
     
  4. Oct 16, 2020 at 7:47 AM
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    It's pretty common practice to have a preload difference to compensate for taco lean. I don't because I'm lazy and live with the lean, but a bunch of others do.
     
  5. Oct 16, 2020 at 7:50 AM
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    There’s your problem. Crank that bitch up.
     
  6. Oct 16, 2020 at 7:59 AM
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    If I remember right, I already have about a 1/4" preload difference. I thought I wrote it down somewhere, but who knows where that is right now.

    I've grown to deal w/ the current setup too. Symmetry is something I've accepted won't be happening w/ all areas of the truck.

    I could. That's easy enough. But, do you think I'd gain all of the right side camber numbers back by going up another 1/4-1/2"?
     
  7. Oct 16, 2020 at 8:05 AM
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    It’s impossible to say how much a change here and a change there will affect the numbers, but overall, I’m guessing lower the right 2 bits, raise the left 1 bit, and move the right front cam inward. That should make a substantial improvement over what you have now.
     
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  8. Oct 16, 2020 at 8:18 AM
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    I apologize. My numbers are based on long travel control arms. You should be closer to +4°caster and -1.5 camber if you set for max caster/ neutral camber.
     
  9. Oct 16, 2020 at 8:25 AM
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    Oh I thought you meant in lieu of doing the tab change. Tracking now.
     
  10. Oct 16, 2020 at 8:29 AM
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    Here’s something worth mentioning. Lean will affect alignment numbers with no change in suspension height on the culprit side. Imagine suspension with equal length upper and lower control arms. Draw an imaginary vertical line through the right upper and lower control arm bushings. Now let 15 lbs of air out of the left tire. Now that vertical imaginary line is leaned to the left resulting in negative camber on the right.
     
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  11. Oct 20, 2020 at 4:50 AM
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    Swapped out the front tab last night. Going to check alignment on Thursday at 8am, so we'll see what the numbers look like.
     
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  12. Oct 22, 2020 at 9:25 AM
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    Here’s the new numbers. Before and after the toe adjustment. Pretty much as they claim, in terms of degrees of adjustment between tabs.
    06A05725-7BD7-422D-8E96-F94923153EC7.jpg 5859BC35-A7D3-45D3-A9D8-84BBA4DF66E2.jpg
     
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  13. Oct 22, 2020 at 9:47 AM
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    For those that don't want to break their neck lol

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  14. Oct 22, 2020 at 9:49 AM
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    Are you just going to leave it at this point? Looks like pretty good numbers. Could always bring the rear bolt to neutral and get more positive camber and lower your caster a little but may not be worth the effort.
     
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  15. Oct 22, 2020 at 10:08 AM
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    That’s not too bad. It may have a little more pull to the left than ideal, but that should only be a slight issue when you’re driving on the left side of the road. You made no mention of whether you adjusted the coilovers. Assuming you didn’t, adjusting them to level out the truck would make the alignment really nice. Of coarse, you’ll have to reset the toe in afterwards.
     
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  16. Oct 22, 2020 at 11:05 AM
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    lol sorry I uploaded the pics from my phone.

    I think I’m going to just leave it. I’d like to have them closer together, but Like you said, I dont think it’s worth the effort. If I had endless (free) access to an alignment machine I’d play around with it more. More tabs would also be nice. But I think it’s good enough for now.
     
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  17. Oct 22, 2020 at 11:07 AM
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    I didn’t adjust the coilovers. I wanted to make one adjustment at a time and see what difference this made on its own.
    I figured when I change my steering rack and tie rods I’ll bring the front driver side up at that time since I’ll be going for another alignment anyway.
     
  18. Nov 17, 2020 at 7:27 PM
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    Installed mine a few weeks ago and finally got around to getting an alignment. It pulls right a bit. Thinking of lowering passenger /increasing driver camber tabs. Thoughts?

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  19. Nov 17, 2020 at 7:46 PM
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    According to the printout, it should be pulling to the left fairly hard.
     
  20. Nov 17, 2020 at 8:14 PM
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    which is why I’m asking hah!. It pulls to the right. I have cooper ST Maxx’s which are hit or miss pulling right so idk where to start.
     

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