Tacoma - OVTUNE - VFTUNER - Update Info and Original Development

thedriza · Dec 23, 2018

OVTune[OP] said: ↑

I planned on dropping off any remaining orders tomorrow morning, but I dont know when they will arrive to people.

I think part of it is the fact that people have been on the TSB and 1.04R for so long they think this is how the truck should drive, or it's the most ideal way for it to drive.
However, the TSB, and 1.04R files still have things that need corrected that were focused on with 1.05.

1. The lack of immediate power/ response in low rpm.
2. The lack of ability to maintain gear, speed, response on the highway.
3. The rapid deceleration whenever you are not on the throttle due to the shift schedule. - This is a huge issue for trucks with larger tire or weight, it compounds the effect, making the truck feel like it weights 10,000 lbs.
4. The shift dancing between 40 and 50mph. (This is still some-what present on 1.05 due to how the shift tables are now designed, it is done so for a specific reason - So that the truck will NOT get stuck in 4th gear on the highway. As a result / side effect, the truck may, depending on accelerator position, change from 4th to 5th in that medium speed range 40+ to 50mph.
5. The upshift on coasting that drops the engine under 1000 rpm (when going about 40mph)
6. useless cruise control
7. The use, or lack of use, of the torque converter locking
8. Getting stuck in 4th while requesting aceleration on the highway.
etc.

1.05 is vastly different than the TSB or 1.04r. It may just be too different..
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DakoTaco · Dec 23, 2018

@OVTune said:

1.05 is vastly different than the TSB or 1.04r. It may just be too different..

Dongle taco on 04B02 likes different and will try it out. LOL

SurfratTX · Dec 23, 2018

Since I don’t want to read through a few hundred pages, I do have 1.04, love it. Has 1.05 been released? Didn’t see it on the first page of this forum, and I have a hand held ordered. I also checked the OVtune website, says 1.05 is coming before the end of the year...maybe that’s an answer to one of my questions....the other is any news on here about the hand helds? Thanks for any info.

Justin85 · Dec 23, 2018

OVTune[OP] said: ↑

I planned on dropping off any remaining orders tomorrow morning, but I dont know when they will arrive to people.

I think part of it is the fact that people have been on the TSB and 1.04R for so long they think this is how the truck should drive, or it's the most ideal way for it to drive. (might be for some, if you have a 4x2 with no weight, stock tires, 87 octane)
However, the TSB, and 1.04R files still have things that need corrected that were focused on with 1.05.

1. The lack of immediate power/ response in low rpm.
2. The lack of ability to maintain gear, speed, response on the highway.
3. The rapid deceleration whenever you are not on the throttle due to the shift schedule. - This is a huge issue for trucks with larger tire or weight, it compounds the effect, making the truck feel like it weights 10,000 lbs.
4. The shift dancing between 40 and 50mph. (This is still some-what present on 1.05 due to how the shift tables are now designed, it is done so for a specific reason - So that the truck will NOT get stuck in 4th gear on the highway. As a result / side effect, the truck may, depending on accelerator position, change from 4th to 5th in that medium speed range 40+ to 50mph.
5. The upshift on coasting that drops the engine under 1000 rpm (when going about 40mph)
6. useless cruise control
7. The use, or lack of use, of the torque converter locking
8. Getting stuck in 4th while requesting aceleration on the highway.
9. Less than desirable MPG.
etc.

1.05 is vastly different than the TSB or 1.04r. It may just be too different..
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I want different. My mileage dropped on 1.04r and I would love to get it back with 1.05. All the things you have addressed are positive changes.

tjpratt · Dec 23, 2018

Justin85 said: ↑

I want different. My mileage dropped on 1.04r and I would love to get it back with 1.05. All the things you have addressed are positive changes.
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Same boat.
I like 1.04r. But my mileage definitely took a hit. "Could" be winter gas, but it started the same time I flashed to 1.04r. I went from 17 -> 14.

crossplane · Dec 23, 2018

SurfratTX said: ↑

Since I don’t want to read through a few hundred pages, I do have 1.04, love it, has 1.05 been released, didn’t see it on the first page of this forum, and I have a hand held ordered. Thanks for any info.
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Since you’re too lazy to even read the last 2-3 pages and not all few hundred I will answer you. No, it has not been released yet. Hell you can just read this one page and can tell it hasn’t been released to all yet.

Justin85 · Dec 23, 2018

tjpratt said: ↑

Same boat.
I like 1.04r. But my mileage definitely took a hit. "Could" be winter gas, but it started the same time I flashed to 1.04r. I went from 17 -> 14.
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Mine went from 21 to 18. I don’t live in a winter gas area. 1.04 was better for my truck but imalso understand the inconsistency from truck to truck means results may vary. I think people fail to realize that.

Doogle · Dec 23, 2018

OVTune[OP] said: ↑

I planned on dropping off any remaining orders tomorrow morning, but I dont know when they will arrive to people.

I think part of it is the fact that people have been on the TSB and 1.04R for so long they think this is how the truck should drive, or it's the most ideal way for it to drive. (might be for some, if you have a 4x2 with no weight, stock tires, 87 octane)
However, the TSB, and 1.04R files still have things that need corrected that were focused on with 1.05.

1. The lack of immediate power/ response in low rpm.
2. The lack of ability to maintain gear, speed, response on the highway.
3. The rapid deceleration whenever you are not on the throttle due to the shift schedule. - This is a huge issue for trucks with larger tire or weight, it compounds the effect, making the truck feel like it weights 10,000 lbs.
4. The shift dancing between 40 and 50mph. (This is still some-what present on 1.05 due to how the shift tables are now designed, it is done so for a specific reason - So that the truck will NOT get stuck in 4th gear on the highway. As a result / side effect, the truck may, depending on accelerator position, change from 4th to 5th in that medium speed range 40+ to 50mph.
5. The upshift on coasting that drops the engine under 1000 rpm (when going about 40mph)
6. useless cruise control
7. The use, or lack of use, of the torque converter locking
8. Getting stuck in 4th while requesting aceleration on the highway.
9. Less than desirable MPG.
etc.

1.05 is vastly different than the TSB or 1.04r. It may just be too different..
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Keep doing your thing man.. No gripes on 1.05 as I reflect back 2 years ago and think about how far this truck has came along.

HardTaco712 · Dec 23, 2018

SurfratTX said: ↑

Since I don’t want to read through a few hundred pages, I do have 1.04, love it. Has 1.05 been released? Didn’t see it on the first page of this forum, and I have a hand held ordered. I also checked the OVtune website, says 1.05 is coming before the end of the year...maybe that’s an answer to one of my questions....the other is any news on here about the hand helds? Thanks for any info.
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Read very bottom of first page.

Frank_Zuccarini · Dec 23, 2018

OVTune[OP] said: ↑

Not only did I acknowledge it, I explained it, and said if anyone wants it to shift different to email.
I've had several messages from 4x4 trucks that they actually prefer it shift this way, and once again, it was done so to alleviate the clunking.

Specifically, it was done to help reduce or eliminate the clunk and or "bucking" when coming to a stop in 1rst gear when the truck downshifts. It is more than just a clunking it feels like, for a moment something pops in the back of the truck. This is from the transmission harshly going into 1rst gear.

Even more specifically, which I have explained in great detail, the same tables that control the gears going up also control the gears going down so anything you want the truck to do going DOWN must also remain when going UP. So, to tune the 2 > 1 DOWN, also directly affects 1>2 UP.

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Please do not change the base tune for this individual. He cannot seem to grasp that he prefers to re-introduce the clunk to everyone, just to alter his 1/2 shift. That is a custom issue, not a majority preference.

Frank

commbubba19 · Dec 23, 2018

Frank_Zuccarini said: ↑

Please do not change the base tune for this individual. He cannot seem to grasp that he prefers to re-introduce the clunk to everyone, just to alter his 1/2 shift. That is a custom issue, not a majority preference.

Frank
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Since mat has already explained that some of the parameters can be changed for individual requests there’s not reason to change the base 1.05.

Really ace just needs to submit a request to enable the tsb like shifting in 1st and he will be happy. I may do it just to see the difference and decide which I prefer.

I will say that mat is offering these changes for free is something to appreciate. A lot of tuners start charging for these level of changes outside of a limited period of time.

airsickbuffa1o · Dec 23, 2018

DakoTaco said: ↑

@OVTune, you've done a great job at telling in layman's terms how this crazy power train works & what you've done to correct it. I hope you know that at least 95% of your customers feel money well spent on what you've done. Can't please them all. Case in point, last day before Xmas break at work, small shop so me & another guy said we're buying pizzas for lunch, tell us what you want. Get the pizzas, everybody's happy except one. He bitched because there wasn't a gluten free, not making fun, understand it bothers some. Asked him why didn't he tell us when we were asking, his response, you should've known. Unbelievable
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Ah this enrages me, as someone with celiac disease, I know, anybody who can't eat gluten for health reasons shouldn't ever eat anything made in a pizzeria, g free or not, as there is flour basically in the air at a pizzeria. Tell him to stop being a little bitch and deal with his diet restrictions on his own lol.

ihatemytruck · Dec 23, 2018

Different I'm sure equals better in this case

Justin85 · Dec 23, 2018

I’m hoping for dongless today.

Tacogrease · Dec 23, 2018

Am I correct in saying .5 is still not available unless you have the latest Toyota update? Dongle version if that matters.

Arpatton86 · Dec 23, 2018

Justin85 said: ↑

I’m hoping for dongless today.
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When people say dongless this is what comes to my mind.

ihatemytruck · Dec 23, 2018

It puts the lotion in the basket...

Anchovy · Dec 23, 2018

Tacogrease said: ↑

An I correct in saying .5 is still not available unless you have the latest Toyota update? Dongke version if that matters.
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1.05 is currently only available to ECU IDs 04B04 and 04A61 with dongles.

Justin85 · Dec 23, 2018

Arpatton86 said: ↑

When people say dongless this is what comes to my mind.
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I would hope so

mZiggy · Dec 23, 2018

Arpatton86 said: ↑

When people say dongless this is what comes to my mind.
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Exactly lol there's a difference between "dongless" and "dongle-less"

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