Tacoma Rear Disc Brakes

Agreed, +1.

When the track guys come out, you get called on ridiculous stuff that doesn't make sense. Why don't those who don't like it based on LOOKS, just say that. Don't try to justify it with crap that doesn't make sense.

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Okay. 1) all the factors you mentioned are controlled for because my taco is brand new, and so were the other cars I have experience driving save for my first car which was a ten year old Jaguar XJ. The Porsche Cayenne S, Mercedes S500, and Aston Martin DB7 all were also brand new when my family bought them so I wouldn't know as much about how these cars' brakes perform when they are worn, as in every example they had brand new pads, fluid, rotors, pins, brackets, hardware, etc and I have always kept my cars in outstanding working order including preventative maintenance measures.

2) That being said, since every other factor was controlled for in the vehicles I have experience driving, the only things left that COULD be responsible for differences in brake feel in stock vehicles, as they were properly designed and built by their manufacturer, is the factors I was mentioning, along with what you said about the size/number of pistons in the calipers, as well as the size of the rotors, and quality of pad material.

3) You aren't the only one with racing experience, but I don't need to list accolades to justify what I'm saying. That isn't the point of this.

4) Thank you for pointing out that the brake booster could also easily be a source of loss of pressure in the system. Thats a great point too, I was just coming at it from the angle of improving the efficiency of the rest of the system first so that hopefully the brake booster no longer needs improvement, but I suppose that just upgrading the booster itself could potentially be just as significant an upgrade.

Everybody watch out, we got a keyboard cowboy on the loose!
LOL in all seriousness though, archerm3 actually had points to make. Don't try to post crap that doesnt make sense when other people are trying to have a nice conversation.

 

I am by no means a brake expert, but you completely lost me when you listed the vehicles in bold while comparing to the Taco. I can see our upbringing is very different, so I would assume our expectations are as well. The brakes in my taco are better than my my first ride a used Volvo or Chevy Cavalier wagon. Apples to Apples would give your argument more bite.

 

True enough as well, but I would say that just becuause those are performance vehicles doesnt mean I can't have a 'golden standard' for where I want to get my Tacoma's braking feel before I enter her in the Baja

 

Agreed. I too am no brake expert, but listing a Jaguar, Porsche, Mercedes, and Aston Martin as the comparators and claiming "all the factors .. are controlled for" really doesn't follow.

Edit: sure, it'd be great if the Taco brakes were at the level of those. I had an msport 335i in conjunction with my Tacoma. I guarantee the braking system components were NOT the same

 

I agree you can have a golden standard.

 

The factors that

There you are sir in case you were concerned. All the factors I was referring to, meaning the WEAR on the parts. Thats my whole point of what im saying, all the vehicles ive driven had BRAND NEW systems, so the only differernces left are that OF THE DESIGN. So, logically, in order to improve the braking system from its optimal settings, one would have to CHANGE THE DESIGN or the quality of parts.

 

but the tacoma has lived on IF ITS NOT BROKE DON'T FIX IT. And I would argue the braking system in the taco is not broke.

 

Nope. Other differences include pad materials, rotors, # of pistons, master cylinder designs... those are just to begin with... You're glossing over a LOT of differences.

Back to my prior question -- can you NOT chirp your Tacoma's rear tires on heavy braking?

 

Just because thats how somebody did it yesterday doesnt mean thats the only way to do it bro. Im not saying I am going to reinvent the disc brake, but if there are ways of improving the brakes im going to go through them before I enter my truck in a 1000 mile offroad race guaranteed to test every part to its limit and then some

 

well now you are talking about racing in your Taco, again not the average owner. You are in a different league then most of us.

 

I can definitely get the back tires to break loose, yeah, but they dont really chirp. I have michelin street tires, they kinda of make a loud whirrrrrr along the road when they lose traction there isnt really a chirp noise

 

Nobody botheres to ask WHY I would advocate spending hundreds, if not thousands of dollars to improve the brakes on a truck. Theres only a few reasons for that and its not that I tow a big boat everywhere haha

 

So if the drums can break the rear tires loose, what advantage would rear discs give you in stopping power?

 

If I was racing, yes I would want disks to help disapate the heat that would build up from heavy constant braking on a track. Boy I would love to race a taco, well legally on the track..

 

Perhaps I missed the transition, but I sensed you were arguing that Toyota should have built the truck differently for everyone rather than you discussing your reasons why you want to perform a change to your vehicle.

 

Yep. That's a specialized instance, and discs are definitely better for heat dissipation. Not something the typical Tacoma owner has any need for though.

 

No, really I just wanted to get more information about doing disc brake swaps and see if others had more information on the subject. I have upgraded my lines to stainless steel, and have some new cryo treated discs and EBC greenstuff supreme truck compound pads, and was just wondering if anyone else had experience taking a different route to improving their brakes

 

Thanks for the clarification, I stand corrected.

You're off into territory I don't know about so I'll hush up now.

 

I think ppl who argue that the Taco should have disc brakes in rear feel that disc brakes are superior and thus may have developed an inferiority complex.

But being that my Taco is superior to anything else build in its class, I have no such complex.