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Tacoma Spring refurbishing

Discussion in 'Suspension' started by 4WD, Dec 22, 2011.

  1. May 20, 2014 at 7:37 PM
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    Forgive me if this has already been covered but I couldn't find it in the "Search this thread" tool.

    What are the facts about painting leaf springs? I have heard it is necessary to prevent rust buildup, but on the other hand I have heard that painting them leaves space between each leaf (If its an even coat I don't understand, but okay) causing them to crack.

    Thanks, Devin
     
  2. May 20, 2014 at 7:49 PM
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  3. May 20, 2014 at 9:09 PM
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    & minus any drama , I've got a couple huge personal issues that have ballooned out of control in regards to my mom's passing. & tho' I don't owe any answers in regard to personal issues i may be going thru' it is only RIGHT that i disclose this much to a public forum & to those who have trusted me, & that trust will not be violated by any personal issues i currently have, it TOO will pass & i'll be on even ground again , any current orders paid obliviously will be honored & a couple of you are minus hardware which you will be refunded, i just can't get my head wrapped around this shit right now & know thats not what you want to hear, but its being honest , so if ya'll just bear with me a bit more much appreciated & as always advice is free & will help anyone wth tech support... so there it is :notsure:
     
  4. May 20, 2014 at 10:59 PM
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    Well damn, Doug. Good luck sorting it out, and I hope this cheers you up a little.

    http://youtu.be/UJKythlXAIY
     
  5. May 21, 2014 at 7:42 AM
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    Hope everything evens out for you.
     
  6. May 21, 2014 at 7:45 AM
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    cheers doug you won't hear a lip out of me complaining!
     
  7. May 31, 2014 at 1:39 PM
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    Alright Doug. I finally got a free weekend to give these Dodge Dakota springs I picked up a try. Got a couple of questions though. Pictures will help me explain.

    Here is my stock 1st Gen spring after taking out the center bolt.

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    1. Will these guys work or do they have too much arc? They pretty close to the factory ones.

    2. Where am I to put the new leaf or leaves in the pack? Between the last spring and the overload spring? Like this:

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    3. Just be be clear, I need to cut down my donor leaves to be 3.75 inches shorter on each end than the leaf they rest under, right? So, in this picture I would cut the purple donor spring down to be 3.75 inches shorter on each end than the yellow spring that rest on top of it and the one below it another 3.75 inches if I add two leaves?

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    4. What are folks using to replace the spring clamps? Circled here:

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    Lastly, does it matter which one of the donor leaves I use, the shortest, middle, or longest? They all appear to have the same arc.

    I hope I have this right. Ready to get cutting. Thanks for the help. Hopefully you can answer these few questions and others can compare them with the pics and get it.
     
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  8. Jun 2, 2014 at 10:37 PM
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    Doug,
    I have read up to page 88 of this thread but tragedy struck today and I have to skip to the end to ask a question. My second leaf on the passenger side split and I'm hoping the main is still salvageable so I can make OMD springs. Can you tell me if shes a goner. If I can rebuild it I'll go down to the junkyard as soon as possible and try to find something worth rebuilding with. Just to be clear I would rebuild both sides, it just so happens that that spring finally broke apart and if that side is good the other should be too.
    Thanks!

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  9. Jun 3, 2014 at 1:01 AM
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    I always paint my springs after I scale them with a cutoff wheel first to take off the big stuff, the usual rusting that takes place turns into solid deposits at some point when moisture is present, that shit has to go !! After de scaling the top/bottom of leafs, I always make a couple passes down the sides (the thin part of the leafs) from end to end, then I wire wheel them do a last inspection & paint... Look at any new leafpack, you'll see their painted through & through, I'm no different so whereever you got that info about paint cause gaps between leafs is B.S., your going to have gaps on any spring that has anti squeak pads on the ends, & no paint is going to cause cracks haha someones fucking with you I think Devin... just hang on a bit we'll get you straightened out....;)


    Thanks dude, & to all I apologize for my partial meltdown, I was being fed alot of bullshit about my moms probate/estate timeline ...assholes...anyway.....we roll....:)


    Perfect, you'll do fine...


    Dude, I'm trying to figure out what the hell is up with bushing wrap (military wrap) at the front hanger in first pic

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    & , its getting uglier for you sadly...
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    I'll be honest, these springs have been heavily abused by weight, not only because they're broken but what really concerns me is the hanger ends, trhe secondary springs are so obviously deformed & sacked I wouldn't even consider using any of your leafpacks, scrap time man, I'm sorry... You're only the second or third person out of 1000's I've had to tell that ..

    You need to find another set of stock springs that are buildable, if I saw them in person , maybe I'd change my mind, but since I dont have them in front of me I can't in good conscience tell you anything different.....You start looking & I will too... pretty sure some will pop up here onsite for cheap, maybe even free...
     
  10. Jun 3, 2014 at 1:08 AM
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    Well, it's good to know that they aren't worth my time, I guess my ride home with all of my stuff from college is going to be a bit hairy but oh well. I'll have to keep my eyes out for some usable stockers then (I really don't want aftermarket leafs after seeing this thread). If anything viable pops up gimme a holler. Do you think it is okay to drive on, just on road.
    Thanks Doug
     
  11. Jun 3, 2014 at 1:18 AM
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  12. Jun 3, 2014 at 1:30 AM
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    Ya know , it always pains me to tell guys that but it'd be a dis service to you to candy coat it... Are those broken springs still in the pack ? If so at least take out the back half that looks like its going to fall out..

    Driving...hmmm... Make sure that the remaining broken leaf is the forward (hanger end) piece, get a hammer if you need to & knock it into parallel with the main spring & check for tightness, as a matter of fact, hit the Ubolt with some decent lube (not PB blaster) It;s great product but we're not trying to loosen them, we just want some lube on the threads because your going to tighten them down a little, not too much , dont need to strip threads on top of the issues you already have, & BE AWARE OF YOUR SITUATION, NO HAULING ANYTHING OF SIGNIFICANT WEIGHT, NO OFFROADING, MOBBING, CURB JUMPING OR NUN RAMING,

    ok that last one was a joke...;) & I'll start looking for a set for you , I usually have a set or 2 of each gen. but not now i dont so we seek....
     
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    The truth may not be very cheery, but it is much appreciated. I'll take out the broken chunk and check the tightness of the U-Bolts. Again, I appreciate the quick response and the willingness to help, hopefully some stock springs come up.
    Thanks,
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  14. Jun 3, 2014 at 2:19 AM
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    Sure thing Zane, & I'm sure some will pop up, hell you should go to the 1st gen market place & not only look but put up a post " WTB" or Looking for set of 1st gen springs

    Which brings up another thing, you're a 95.5, so we need to find some for your year up to '97. From 98' up the springs are a couple inches longer

    So any SOA up to 1997 will work fine..
     
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    I figured it was something like that. Good to hear its manageable.

    I was a little surprised to read that you're against a good nun ramming.
     
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    Yeah , my attorney was not pleased with this harrassment after I talked to her

    As far as the ramming goes its ok, but the rimming is awesome ... nothing chirps & moves like a penguin....haha...
     
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    For emergency repairs only, do you think it'd be worthwhile to loop a pair of stainless steel hose clamps around both sides of a broken leaf while they're still in the pack? Lots of parts stores carry large enough clamps to do the job, and I think they'd keep the pieces in the stack well enough to prevent a sidewall puncture or worse.
     
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    Duct tape/bailing wire/hose clamps, sure it's practical & common sense enough, only issue would be human nature meaning that if this were done, i think too many would get too comfortable with it & just put it off or not think about it at all, but i think you've got a great idea there, we can't be held with the responsibility of making sure people follow thru on repairs/replacing. So I'd say thats a nice addition to the other random crap we drag along for the "just in case" situation.....

    You get a gold star today Ding.....:thumbsup::thumbsup:
     
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    I just used some 3/8" bolts from Lowes... Rounded off the end of the bolt on the bottom side of the spring. Buy a full threaded bolt longer than you think you will need and cut off the excess.
     
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