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The Official Gym & Fitness Thread

Discussion in 'Health' started by TyT, Jan 31, 2011.

  1. Feb 9, 2022 at 4:07 AM
    weldertaco

    weldertaco Mr.13%bodyfat

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    What is your problem with your form?
     
  2. Feb 9, 2022 at 5:02 AM
    Gen1TacoLady

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    I struggle to get to depth and keep my balance. I think there are 2 main problems.
    1. My knees angle in instead of following the angle of my feet (abductor flexibility?)
    2. I have a hard time feeling where exactly the bar needs to sit on my back.

    My brother gave me a crash course in DL, squat and bench before he left to get me started, and I've been working at it on my own for a while (and learning slowly).
     
  3. Feb 9, 2022 at 6:00 AM
    Lurkin

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    I've always found assessing your own form to be problematic. Even with mirrors in place, that only gives you a 2d view of your form, and also assumes you can critically assess your form while doing the lifts. I think you can assess big form nastiness, but to get further you need a trusted observer. And note that even those assessing you can provide good input even though they are not great themselves, due to the "personal assessment limitations" above.

    Just my opinion anyway,,, worth every penny you paid for it. ;)
     
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  4. Feb 9, 2022 at 6:29 AM
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    I have been working on my squat form for years. Still not perfect. Not sure it ever will be.

    Low bar is best for me but because of shoulder issues thats a no go. So I lean forward on high bar. I’ve accepted its a fact of life.

    Many of us are different shapes and sizes so we can’t all conform to one true correct form. Big thing is if you notice pain or problems. If you can squat double your body weight with zero issues, its going to be hard for someone to tell you, you are doing something wrong.

    Do you struggle with knee valgus/knock knee?
     
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  5. Feb 9, 2022 at 7:33 AM
    Gen1TacoLady

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    Yes. This is why I've been hoping to find a partner cause my diagnosis of issues is undoubtedly incomplete at best and more likely inaccurate. I always welcome input and feedback, but I try to do so with some discernment.

    Perfect would be great, but my goal is really just safe or "don't get hurt".

    I'm trying low bar. Figuring out if that works for my shape and size. Its been changing a bit so its like working with a moving target.

    I don't know...o_O I sprained both knees multiple times growing up, but no lasting issues I've noticed or medical conditions. But...my knees do angle in like that when I squat. Is it an actual condition or just a result of imbalances?
     
  6. Feb 9, 2022 at 8:02 AM
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    A lot of people have knee valgus. Its typically a result of low arches, leak outer lower legs, and weak glute meds and hips. Its an imbalance issue that usually can be fixed.

    Knees caving in on squat means too much weight for hip strength but also can be part of that knee valgus.
    It will also cause poor knee cap tracking over time. Which will usually not cause pain until it becomes arthritic.

    Athlean X has great stuff on it and exercises for it. I like his stuff a lot for anything PT related. He also has videos for squats and form and how to correct it too. Might be helpful.
     
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  7. Feb 9, 2022 at 8:57 AM
    4WDTrout

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    Try going real light weight at first when doing your squats. Work on proper form and slowly increase the weight as you see fit or your program recommends. Using a smith machine can also be helpful.
     
  8. Feb 9, 2022 at 9:43 AM
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    Yeah that makes sense for me.

    Thanks! I'll check it out. :thumbsup:
     
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  9. Feb 9, 2022 at 9:56 AM
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    I only ever got to like 175 when I was first starting out. Then when I started identifying how bad my form was, I scaled back to just the bar most of the time to see and feel how my body is moving or 95lbs when I'm checking the impact of a little weight for consistency.
     
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  10. Feb 9, 2022 at 5:37 PM
    weldertaco

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    What’s your feet position and lifting “cues”? Like what do you tell yourself /do when doing the lift?
     
  11. Feb 9, 2022 at 5:39 PM
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  12. Feb 10, 2022 at 6:41 AM
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    Feet shoulder width out, pointed out around 30 degrees. Bar should move in a straight line vertically not forward or back over the ball of the foot. Back straight. Drive with the hips. Stay tight. Look 6 feet ahead. 1 step back. Deep breath. Don't forget to breathe. You got it. You're strong.

    Thats probably covers it. :D
     
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  13. Feb 10, 2022 at 7:18 AM
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    Huh, way beyond what I tell myself which is more along the lines of "shutup mofo and lift!" :)
     
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    Squat mental check list:
    Bar on shoulders
    Feet just over shoulder width apart
    Toes slightly out
    Stay on heels
    Go to 90 degrees
    Pause
    Up in one movement
    Keep back straight

    Repeat about 5 times before I ask if thats enough and I can stop squatting.

    #fucksqkwatz
     
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  16. Feb 10, 2022 at 9:32 AM
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    Lol. I presume you've been doing it a lot longer and may not require the constant reminders; whereas I have definitely forgotten to breathe. :goingcrazy:
     
  17. Feb 10, 2022 at 9:51 AM
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  18. Feb 10, 2022 at 9:56 AM
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    Dr. Stuart McGill is all over YouTube and is by far the premiere expert on squat and deadlift technique. He has peer reviewed published research, has studied tons of cadaver spines, coached over 30 Olympians, professional athletes, MMA fighters, fixed strong man injuries, etc. I saw someone ask him to cite his sources once and I laughed because his research IS the source.

    To paraphrase the wisest thing I head him; If you ask an amateur how many perfect lifts they get and they'll say all but the last few reps. If you ask a strength athlete they'll say never. They never get a perfect lift because they're working to improve every one.

    I do my best to "program" the mind-body connection by starting with light loads and trying to perfect my form on each rep. Eventually the mental check list goes from 20 things, including how to breath, to like 8 points. You got this!
     
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  19. Feb 10, 2022 at 11:54 AM
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    Don't assume. I am a resident smart ass who's workouts are based on machines and dumbells. I haven't done bar work for several years as I have some joint replacements and don't have any desire to pressure those. I call my weight work 'joint-maintenance' and I am not trying to build much of anything but rather to maintain motion and range of motion.

    I have also been breathing for many years and do plan to keep that up. :D
     
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  20. Feb 10, 2022 at 4:21 PM
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    Lol. Noted.

    Good plan.:rofl:
     

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